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<blockquote data-quote="lichmaster" data-source="post: 8608643" data-attributes="member: 6683330"><p>My understanding is this: crafting is done in two phases, and there's a given amount of time between the two depending on the item's rarity.</p><p></p><p>You make your first roll during phase 1 (at the beginning of the crafting period). </p><p>Success: wait X amount of time than move to phase 2.</p><p>Failure: wait X amount of time of time and are still at phase 1, but didn't waste any material and the job isn't harder (you get to do it over, but you still wasted time). </p><p>Failure by more than 5 and less than 10: wait X amount of time then proceed to phase 2, but the final check will be harder. </p><p>Failure by 10 or more: you waste half of the material and have to start over, but you gain an expertise die the next time you try to craft this item, if you do so within 1 month.</p><p></p><p>Phase 2 (after the stated amount of time).</p><p>Success: item crafted</p><p>Failure: waste half of the materials and crafting failed.</p><p>Failure by 10 or more: waste all the materials and crafting failed.</p><p></p><p>Here my understanding is:</p><p></p><p>Your item starts as undamaged. Adventuring takes a toll on everything, so it can require a maintainance check.</p><p>On a success it stays undamaged, on a failure it becomes damaged. Mechanically this doesn't necessarily have an effect (it does for some items and vehicles), but it surely works as a "warning".</p><p>Once an item is damaged, you can attempt a maintainance check again.</p><p>On a success it returns undamaged, on a failure it becomes broken. This definitely has an effect, as now the item cannot be used anymore.</p><p></p><p>Think of "damaged" as a form of warning. It is similar to a pc that has lost a good amount of HP: it is still 100% effective, but if battered and bruised again it might not be effective anymore.</p><p>The damaged condition can be very useful during a prolonged journey in an unhospitable environment. Maybe the group is travelling through a swamp, and after an attack the armor of a fighter gets battered hard. Trying to maintain it is paramount: if it gets broken, the fighter won't be able to use it again and will have to decide if it's better to carry it and have it repaired (but it's just a burden for the moment), or it's better to leave it there to rust.</p><p></p><p>Mechanically, this system allows you to do some interesting things:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">enemies defeated by the party will probably have a good amount of gear that is damaged, if not outright broken. This allows to avoid the PCs selling gear of defeated enemies at full price, and as a DM you have better control on how much resources they have</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NPC blacksmiths now have a purpose, as maybe none of the PCs is skilled in maintaining their gear. This is another way to control the party's wealth</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blacksmith followers become an investment, given the point above</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is a point in purchasing items of superior materials, which are more expensive but easier to maintain</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lichmaster, post: 8608643, member: 6683330"] My understanding is this: crafting is done in two phases, and there's a given amount of time between the two depending on the item's rarity. You make your first roll during phase 1 (at the beginning of the crafting period). Success: wait X amount of time than move to phase 2. Failure: wait X amount of time of time and are still at phase 1, but didn't waste any material and the job isn't harder (you get to do it over, but you still wasted time). Failure by more than 5 and less than 10: wait X amount of time then proceed to phase 2, but the final check will be harder. Failure by 10 or more: you waste half of the material and have to start over, but you gain an expertise die the next time you try to craft this item, if you do so within 1 month. Phase 2 (after the stated amount of time). Success: item crafted Failure: waste half of the materials and crafting failed. Failure by 10 or more: waste all the materials and crafting failed. Here my understanding is: Your item starts as undamaged. Adventuring takes a toll on everything, so it can require a maintainance check. On a success it stays undamaged, on a failure it becomes damaged. Mechanically this doesn't necessarily have an effect (it does for some items and vehicles), but it surely works as a "warning". Once an item is damaged, you can attempt a maintainance check again. On a success it returns undamaged, on a failure it becomes broken. This definitely has an effect, as now the item cannot be used anymore. Think of "damaged" as a form of warning. It is similar to a pc that has lost a good amount of HP: it is still 100% effective, but if battered and bruised again it might not be effective anymore. The damaged condition can be very useful during a prolonged journey in an unhospitable environment. Maybe the group is travelling through a swamp, and after an attack the armor of a fighter gets battered hard. Trying to maintain it is paramount: if it gets broken, the fighter won't be able to use it again and will have to decide if it's better to carry it and have it repaired (but it's just a burden for the moment), or it's better to leave it there to rust. Mechanically, this system allows you to do some interesting things: [LIST] [*]enemies defeated by the party will probably have a good amount of gear that is damaged, if not outright broken. This allows to avoid the PCs selling gear of defeated enemies at full price, and as a DM you have better control on how much resources they have [*]NPC blacksmiths now have a purpose, as maybe none of the PCs is skilled in maintaining their gear. This is another way to control the party's wealth [*]Blacksmith followers become an investment, given the point above [*]There is a point in purchasing items of superior materials, which are more expensive but easier to maintain [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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