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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 2496840" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>I don't have my books in front of me, but this still looks horribly, horribly unbalanced unless you REALLY limit multiclassing. Compare two characters:</p><p>Character 1: 15th level Sorcerer (105k XP?)</p><p>Character 2: Sor 14/Ftr 2/Rog 2/Bbn 2/Clr 1/Dru 1/Brd 1/Wiz 1 (104k XP)</p><p>So, character 2 requires slightly less XP. In exchange for a single level of spellcasting, 2+INT skill points, and a d4 hit die, he gains 21 HP, 3 feats (two fighter feats and Scribe Scroll), Sneak Attack 1d6, Evasion, Rage, Fast Movement, Uncanny Dodge, a domain ability, an animal companion and a familiar. Oh, and 42+(10xINT) more skill points, which is probably more than he had to begin with, with a MUCH better list of skills to choose from.</p><p></p><p>It's actually not even a question of that kind of rampant multiclassing; it just illustrates the point. With this change, there's almost no reason for a high-level spellcaster not to take a single level of Rogue (for skill points), Barbarian (for HP), or Fighter (for HP and a Feat). Get a few HPs, some weapon skills, and maybe some armor profs you won't use. Sure, you'd be better off taking all three, but let's assume the worst case and pretend you limited it so harshly that no extra multiclassing would be allowed; it'd STILL be too strong. It might be okay for the 5/5 or 7/7 you're talking about, but that wouldn't make the 15/1 any less unbalanced. Any high-level caster who didn't take a side level would be far weaker than one who did.</p><p></p><p>So, you'd have to limit it in a way that only penalized the lopsided multiclassing. For instance, you could add two rules:</p><p>1> You can only do this if your highest class is your racial Favored Class.</p><p>2> And, you can't multiclass this way if the resulting levels would result in an XP penalty, assessed BEFORE taking into account racial favored classes.</p><p>So, the 7/7 is fine, but 8/6 or 10/1 isn't, regardless of race.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd say drop the whole idea and stick with Prestige Classes like the Eldritch Knight or Mystic Theurge if you want to mix caster levels with something else. They're much easier to balance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 2496840, member: 3051"] I don't have my books in front of me, but this still looks horribly, horribly unbalanced unless you REALLY limit multiclassing. Compare two characters: Character 1: 15th level Sorcerer (105k XP?) Character 2: Sor 14/Ftr 2/Rog 2/Bbn 2/Clr 1/Dru 1/Brd 1/Wiz 1 (104k XP) So, character 2 requires slightly less XP. In exchange for a single level of spellcasting, 2+INT skill points, and a d4 hit die, he gains 21 HP, 3 feats (two fighter feats and Scribe Scroll), Sneak Attack 1d6, Evasion, Rage, Fast Movement, Uncanny Dodge, a domain ability, an animal companion and a familiar. Oh, and 42+(10xINT) more skill points, which is probably more than he had to begin with, with a MUCH better list of skills to choose from. It's actually not even a question of that kind of rampant multiclassing; it just illustrates the point. With this change, there's almost no reason for a high-level spellcaster not to take a single level of Rogue (for skill points), Barbarian (for HP), or Fighter (for HP and a Feat). Get a few HPs, some weapon skills, and maybe some armor profs you won't use. Sure, you'd be better off taking all three, but let's assume the worst case and pretend you limited it so harshly that no extra multiclassing would be allowed; it'd STILL be too strong. It might be okay for the 5/5 or 7/7 you're talking about, but that wouldn't make the 15/1 any less unbalanced. Any high-level caster who didn't take a side level would be far weaker than one who did. So, you'd have to limit it in a way that only penalized the lopsided multiclassing. For instance, you could add two rules: 1> You can only do this if your highest class is your racial Favored Class. 2> And, you can't multiclass this way if the resulting levels would result in an XP penalty, assessed BEFORE taking into account racial favored classes. So, the 7/7 is fine, but 8/6 or 10/1 isn't, regardless of race. Personally, I'd say drop the whole idea and stick with Prestige Classes like the Eldritch Knight or Mystic Theurge if you want to mix caster levels with something else. They're much easier to balance. [/QUOTE]
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