Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
Creature Catalogue discussion
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7066021" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>At my game table (3.5), we pass the DM duties around the table.</p><p></p><p>Our current DM was given a hard copy of the Creature Catalogue, and has started using creatures and settings from it. The current one is the Carnival of Shadows, as run by the Jack of Tears.</p><p></p><p>I haven't read the creature specifics for this boss-monster (and I shouldn't), but the DM has given us a few bite.</p><p></p><p>He's listed as a CR 10, but has spell casting ability of an 18th level Sorcerer, plus he has a substantial stack of immunities. </p><p></p><p>Unless there's some huge flaw to this character, the CR isn't even a joke. It's a lie. I mean, to my thinking an 18th level Sorcerer is, as a base, CR 18. Add or subtract from there based on extras or weaknesses. </p><p></p><p>I've seen the monster CRs inflate as the MM volumes go up, but this looks like the authors weren't even trying. I suspect that they looked at the BA of an 18th level Sorcerer and worked from there.</p><p></p><p>I guess my question is, have you folks found the monsters in the book reasonably balanced for their listed CR? I mean this guy could be a fluke, or I could have been misinformed.</p><p></p><p>Any geneal advice on how to treat these things? (No spoilers, please, since we're currently in mid conflict).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7066021, member: 6669384"] At my game table (3.5), we pass the DM duties around the table. Our current DM was given a hard copy of the Creature Catalogue, and has started using creatures and settings from it. The current one is the Carnival of Shadows, as run by the Jack of Tears. I haven't read the creature specifics for this boss-monster (and I shouldn't), but the DM has given us a few bite. He's listed as a CR 10, but has spell casting ability of an 18th level Sorcerer, plus he has a substantial stack of immunities. Unless there's some huge flaw to this character, the CR isn't even a joke. It's a lie. I mean, to my thinking an 18th level Sorcerer is, as a base, CR 18. Add or subtract from there based on extras or weaknesses. I've seen the monster CRs inflate as the MM volumes go up, but this looks like the authors weren't even trying. I suspect that they looked at the BA of an 18th level Sorcerer and worked from there. I guess my question is, have you folks found the monsters in the book reasonably balanced for their listed CR? I mean this guy could be a fluke, or I could have been misinformed. Any geneal advice on how to treat these things? (No spoilers, please, since we're currently in mid conflict). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
Creature Catalogue discussion
Top