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<blockquote data-quote="Big Mac" data-source="post: 4336805" data-attributes="member: 61182"><p>I suppose you could. The ESD Conversion Agreement allow you to convert everything to 3rd edition. Deciding to not convert things is just a matter of "politeness".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose people might want to take things that have been tied in with one campaign setting (like Forgotten Realms) and make more general versions of them from old school sources.</p><p></p><p>Alternatively people might want to complete a "set" that has one or two monsters missing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is ToH going out of print? If things are still in print, then maybe it would be "polite" to refrain from competing. But if they are going to switch to the GSL and stop selling ToH then these monsters will go out of print until the copyright expires. It would be nice for Creature Catalogue to give the next generation of fans an alternative source.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that is a real shame. I'm planning of sticking with 3.5 (and have been buying up rulebooks). I'm thinking of looking into Pathfinder (and maybe using it as house rules) but I think I'd rather have a <strong>full</strong> set of 3.5 monsters if possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm. The ESD Conversion Agreement says 3rd edition and doesn't mention Pathfinder. So I'm not sure if you can do it. I'd say the ESD Conversion Agreement counts as a PI licence.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you can create "3rd edition conversions" that are bumped up enough that they work with Pathfinder, but not use the Pathfinder name. I think most people would know what you mean if you said they were "3.75 conversions" and any bits that were Pathfinder specific were "house rules" that you listed in a sidebar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Draconian GSL? Is that why they took the Dragonlance licence back from Margaret Weis Productions? So that they could have a licence for draconians?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just kidding! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know about anyone else, but I was slow to move over to 3rd edition. I struggled learning all the 3.0 rules and then was really resistant to learning 3.5. But when 4.0 came along it was the kick up the bum I needed to get me into the system. Now I want to see all the out of print campaign settings get converted to 3rd edition and Creature Catalogue is doing all of the monsters for me.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of websites (like Dragonsfoot) that cater for fans of older versions of D&D and I hope that these monsters can give people pleasure for years to come. It would be great to see people downloading these even after 5th edition comes out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the unconverted creatures need doing first. That way someone can get Echohawk's index and buy the books with their missing monsters on eBay. But with generic D&D "stealing" monsters from campaign settings, there are a few that I'd like to see included in a PDF dedicated to one setting.</p><p></p><p>And things like a Races of the Eye PDF (with a full set of beholders) could be great to see.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think they might. The ESD Conversion Agreement wouldn't cover such a conversion, so you would be relying on good will.</p><p></p><p>I would actually like to see WotC do a retro-conversion agreement that lets people take things all the way back to 3rd edition, AD&D and OD&D. That could probably tempt some old school fans into buying new books to convert to their favorite rules, so it might boost sales.</p><p></p><p>The fact that there is no proper 4eSRD would also boost sales as everyone doing conversions would definatly need to core rules as well as monster books.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Mac, post: 4336805, member: 61182"] I suppose you could. The ESD Conversion Agreement allow you to convert everything to 3rd edition. Deciding to not convert things is just a matter of "politeness". I suppose people might want to take things that have been tied in with one campaign setting (like Forgotten Realms) and make more general versions of them from old school sources. Alternatively people might want to complete a "set" that has one or two monsters missing. Is ToH going out of print? If things are still in print, then maybe it would be "polite" to refrain from competing. But if they are going to switch to the GSL and stop selling ToH then these monsters will go out of print until the copyright expires. It would be nice for Creature Catalogue to give the next generation of fans an alternative source. I think that is a real shame. I'm planning of sticking with 3.5 (and have been buying up rulebooks). I'm thinking of looking into Pathfinder (and maybe using it as house rules) but I think I'd rather have a [B]full[/B] set of 3.5 monsters if possible. Hmm. The ESD Conversion Agreement says 3rd edition and doesn't mention Pathfinder. So I'm not sure if you can do it. I'd say the ESD Conversion Agreement counts as a PI licence. Maybe you can create "3rd edition conversions" that are bumped up enough that they work with Pathfinder, but not use the Pathfinder name. I think most people would know what you mean if you said they were "3.75 conversions" and any bits that were Pathfinder specific were "house rules" that you listed in a sidebar. Draconian GSL? Is that why they took the Dragonlance licence back from Margaret Weis Productions? So that they could have a licence for draconians? Just kidding! :p I don't know about anyone else, but I was slow to move over to 3rd edition. I struggled learning all the 3.0 rules and then was really resistant to learning 3.5. But when 4.0 came along it was the kick up the bum I needed to get me into the system. Now I want to see all the out of print campaign settings get converted to 3rd edition and Creature Catalogue is doing all of the monsters for me. There are plenty of websites (like Dragonsfoot) that cater for fans of older versions of D&D and I hope that these monsters can give people pleasure for years to come. It would be great to see people downloading these even after 5th edition comes out. I think the unconverted creatures need doing first. That way someone can get Echohawk's index and buy the books with their missing monsters on eBay. But with generic D&D "stealing" monsters from campaign settings, there are a few that I'd like to see included in a PDF dedicated to one setting. And things like a Races of the Eye PDF (with a full set of beholders) could be great to see. I think they might. The ESD Conversion Agreement wouldn't cover such a conversion, so you would be relying on good will. I would actually like to see WotC do a retro-conversion agreement that lets people take things all the way back to 3rd edition, AD&D and OD&D. That could probably tempt some old school fans into buying new books to convert to their favorite rules, so it might boost sales. The fact that there is no proper 4eSRD would also boost sales as everyone doing conversions would definatly need to core rules as well as monster books. [/QUOTE]
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