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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6716326" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I just want to be clear that I am not throwing my hat in here with conservatives or anti-progressives. I am a liberal and I am a democrat. I may even vote for Bernie Sanders this election. I just think there is room in the hobby for lots of different points of view and that when we get hung up on esoteric concepts like CA it creates more barriers between people than anything else. I think too often discussion about media or gaming is framed as a zero sum game between the left and the right. The thinking feels like: if we can just get out all the liberals, or just get out all the conservatives, or if we just hit them hard enough this one time, they'll go away and things will be perfect. </p><p></p><p>I guess my other issue is this really seems to be about shaming people in a negative way. The Monte Cook games incident came up earlier and as a case in point I think there was a lot of attempts to shame the company into doing something different. There was also a lot of dialogue. But the shaming, particularly when it was directed primarily toward Shanna Germain who has been nothing but open and accepting of everyone, troubled me. It felt cruel. It felt like people were high on feeling righteous. I think there were also plenty of people coming to the table making real points and expressing real concerns. But there was an ugliness that emerged there as well. That kind of shaming I simply can't get behind or support. Particularly when you are talking about something as everyday as gaming. When I hear people say "He'll think twice before trying that again"....I find that a very chilling mindset to contemplate. I don't think that is a healthy way to encourage change. If Monte Cook is only avoiding things because he's afraid of how people react, that seems like an almost coercive situation. I mean, if someone voices a complaint and he mulls it over and agrees, then decides to make a change, that is cool. The approach that just tries to shame him into another course of action, just feels like bullying to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6716326, member: 85555"] I just want to be clear that I am not throwing my hat in here with conservatives or anti-progressives. I am a liberal and I am a democrat. I may even vote for Bernie Sanders this election. I just think there is room in the hobby for lots of different points of view and that when we get hung up on esoteric concepts like CA it creates more barriers between people than anything else. I think too often discussion about media or gaming is framed as a zero sum game between the left and the right. The thinking feels like: if we can just get out all the liberals, or just get out all the conservatives, or if we just hit them hard enough this one time, they'll go away and things will be perfect. I guess my other issue is this really seems to be about shaming people in a negative way. The Monte Cook games incident came up earlier and as a case in point I think there was a lot of attempts to shame the company into doing something different. There was also a lot of dialogue. But the shaming, particularly when it was directed primarily toward Shanna Germain who has been nothing but open and accepting of everyone, troubled me. It felt cruel. It felt like people were high on feeling righteous. I think there were also plenty of people coming to the table making real points and expressing real concerns. But there was an ugliness that emerged there as well. That kind of shaming I simply can't get behind or support. Particularly when you are talking about something as everyday as gaming. When I hear people say "He'll think twice before trying that again"....I find that a very chilling mindset to contemplate. I don't think that is a healthy way to encourage change. If Monte Cook is only avoiding things because he's afraid of how people react, that seems like an almost coercive situation. I mean, if someone voices a complaint and he mulls it over and agrees, then decides to make a change, that is cool. The approach that just tries to shame him into another course of action, just feels like bullying to me. [/QUOTE]
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