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<blockquote data-quote="Malachei" data-source="post: 5306633" data-attributes="member: 38657"><p>Yes, IMO it would be too much for a feat. Although there are feats that might be stronger than that in other categories (I'm thinking of Chain Spell, for example), if you look at the feats granting extra spell casting, it is too powerful (I think Spellcasting Prodigy is the benchmark, here) -- it includes the main reason to take a class level. Note that the Paragon Classes (and other PrCs) come with a lot of advantages, and are mainly offset by causing the loss of one SKL.</p><p></p><p>In Complete Arcane (p. 181), there is Precocious Apprentice, which grants you access to a single second level spell as a first level caster. When you get access to second level, you keep the spell as an additional second level spell slot. </p><p></p><p>I think you could design something like that, but I think it is a balance issue compared to Precocious Apprentice, because the 2nd level limit was design intent. I guess designers felt that access to a single second-level spell above your own SKL is pretty strong -- and that they felt that if this is possible for higher level spells, it would be unbalanced (like a feat granting access to one 9th level spell, when you are SKL 15). Really just guessing here, but that's my impression. So you'd need a drawback, probably, like using a spell of a lower level to power it -- something like using two spell slots of level 4 to power one spell of level 5 (I think there's a class ability or feat out there that does exactly this).</p><p></p><p>You could, also, design a feat chain, with the entry feat granting little advantage. Something like:</p><p></p><p>Initiated Mage:</p><p>+1 bonus on Spellcraft</p><p></p><p>Intense Mage:</p><p>Add +1 to your caster level (same as Practiced Spellcaster, does not stack with Practiced Spellcaster). Requires Initiated Mage.</p><p></p><p>High Mage:</p><p>Add +1 to your level for spells known, up to your HD. Does not affect caster level. Requires Intense Mage.</p><p></p><p>So effectively, you need two substandard feats to get one which is very powerful.</p><p></p><p>Even with this chain, I don't know if it would be balanced -- allowing it means that you can take a level in a different class (or take a PrC that's balanced because it costs you a SKL) at no penalty at all. Using it is a pretty big boost, and a wizard at level 16 would gain one 9th level spell and one 6th level spell.</p><p></p><p>I definitely think that dropping the first as a requirement would be too powerful, unless there are some additional drawbacks. The Practiced Spellcaster overlap would, IMO, not be enough, because there are some situations in which you only need to gain one caster level to offset PrC drawbacks.</p><p></p><p>Another strategy could be to limit the benefit to a chosen school, which might be complicated in practice, but a limiting factor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malachei, post: 5306633, member: 38657"] Yes, IMO it would be too much for a feat. Although there are feats that might be stronger than that in other categories (I'm thinking of Chain Spell, for example), if you look at the feats granting extra spell casting, it is too powerful (I think Spellcasting Prodigy is the benchmark, here) -- it includes the main reason to take a class level. Note that the Paragon Classes (and other PrCs) come with a lot of advantages, and are mainly offset by causing the loss of one SKL. In Complete Arcane (p. 181), there is Precocious Apprentice, which grants you access to a single second level spell as a first level caster. When you get access to second level, you keep the spell as an additional second level spell slot. I think you could design something like that, but I think it is a balance issue compared to Precocious Apprentice, because the 2nd level limit was design intent. I guess designers felt that access to a single second-level spell above your own SKL is pretty strong -- and that they felt that if this is possible for higher level spells, it would be unbalanced (like a feat granting access to one 9th level spell, when you are SKL 15). Really just guessing here, but that's my impression. So you'd need a drawback, probably, like using a spell of a lower level to power it -- something like using two spell slots of level 4 to power one spell of level 5 (I think there's a class ability or feat out there that does exactly this). You could, also, design a feat chain, with the entry feat granting little advantage. Something like: Initiated Mage: +1 bonus on Spellcraft Intense Mage: Add +1 to your caster level (same as Practiced Spellcaster, does not stack with Practiced Spellcaster). Requires Initiated Mage. High Mage: Add +1 to your level for spells known, up to your HD. Does not affect caster level. Requires Intense Mage. So effectively, you need two substandard feats to get one which is very powerful. Even with this chain, I don't know if it would be balanced -- allowing it means that you can take a level in a different class (or take a PrC that's balanced because it costs you a SKL) at no penalty at all. Using it is a pretty big boost, and a wizard at level 16 would gain one 9th level spell and one 6th level spell. I definitely think that dropping the first as a requirement would be too powerful, unless there are some additional drawbacks. The Practiced Spellcaster overlap would, IMO, not be enough, because there are some situations in which you only need to gain one caster level to offset PrC drawbacks. Another strategy could be to limit the benefit to a chosen school, which might be complicated in practice, but a limiting factor. [/QUOTE]
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