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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 6528981" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>No need to pilfer. You're a bard, and it's a bard cantrip so it's all good. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for the rest, I have only one actual thought...the rest really needs the GM to make some decisions. The thought I have is that since 'belief = reality' in the outer planes...and further, since the Ethereal Plane is more or less inaccessible through most of the outer planes...it would be kind of cool if this Effigy worked kind of like a <em>tulpa</em> sort of thing, where it is a physical manifestation of thought and belief. This would be a lot easier to balance than any kind of incorporeality. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>It also leads to an interesting example of how belief is a double-edged sword. This incarnate idea, this thought given form, was able to survive the death of its originator by finding other minds to believe in it. Enough people believed it to be real that it -became- real. The downside of that is that...if those people believe the idea to be dead, oops...it is. So the idea has a body, and all the advantages therof...but because bodies can be hurt, must eat and sleep, and can die...well, that all applies to the Effigy too. He's riding a tiger, trying to get enough belief that he can continue being an entity in the world...but at the same time aware that the beliefs that make him real also limit and threaten to define him.</p><p></p><p>Maybe that's why he limits himself to small groups and teams at the moment? A handful of people he can manipulate into believing more or less whatever he wants them to...and can therefore determine his own nature. But if he tried to make himself real to a large number of people at once, he'd lose control of that. Sooner or later misconceptions, or 'unauthorized' opinions and beliefs would start cropping up... <em>and he'd change to match them</em>. At least, that's the fear. Or maybe it already happened once?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 6528981, member: 4936"] No need to pilfer. You're a bard, and it's a bard cantrip so it's all good. :) As for the rest, I have only one actual thought...the rest really needs the GM to make some decisions. The thought I have is that since 'belief = reality' in the outer planes...and further, since the Ethereal Plane is more or less inaccessible through most of the outer planes...it would be kind of cool if this Effigy worked kind of like a [i]tulpa[/i] sort of thing, where it is a physical manifestation of thought and belief. This would be a lot easier to balance than any kind of incorporeality. :) It also leads to an interesting example of how belief is a double-edged sword. This incarnate idea, this thought given form, was able to survive the death of its originator by finding other minds to believe in it. Enough people believed it to be real that it -became- real. The downside of that is that...if those people believe the idea to be dead, oops...it is. So the idea has a body, and all the advantages therof...but because bodies can be hurt, must eat and sleep, and can die...well, that all applies to the Effigy too. He's riding a tiger, trying to get enough belief that he can continue being an entity in the world...but at the same time aware that the beliefs that make him real also limit and threaten to define him. Maybe that's why he limits himself to small groups and teams at the moment? A handful of people he can manipulate into believing more or less whatever he wants them to...and can therefore determine his own nature. But if he tried to make himself real to a large number of people at once, he'd lose control of that. Sooner or later misconceptions, or 'unauthorized' opinions and beliefs would start cropping up... [i]and he'd change to match them[/i]. At least, that's the fear. Or maybe it already happened once? [/QUOTE]
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