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<blockquote data-quote="Eman Resu" data-source="post: 6836952" data-attributes="member: 100340"><p>I know there exists a list of prestige classes, feats & spells that are commonly banned by DMs. Most often the reasoning for such exclusions, "its too powerful" "its broken". Some examples are Planar Shepherd, incantatrix, wish (and like spells).</p><p></p><p>I am interested in removing the Teleport Spell and to a lesser degree "gimping" plane travel. I would like for the gaming world Im creating to be void of these, forcing conventional travel by all but the gods.</p><p>I would like to see how you think this would effect society? Think about it, a world where Wizards cant just pull out there get out of jail free cards" thusly avoiding sticky situations. </p><p></p><p>Gandalf had to ride a horse, ok sometimes a giant eagle, he did not have teleport, but if he did, the movie(s) would of never happened. Grab Hobbit, teleport, throw ring, 2 minute movie, roll the credits its all over. </p><p></p><p>How do you envision the effects/affects of this? </p><p></p><p>I foresee wizard towers with a lot of defenses, more defenses, lots of man power, more conventional in nature. Oh sure, they can turn inviso, fly, maybe both, but the easy escape of plane travel or teleport are to have never existed being reserved for only the gods. High level wizards would be more easily contained, controlled and excluded. A wizard would make a valuable ally but a horrible enemy, as is the case already. But now they cant come and go as they please. A king cant just "allow" them to make and sell to anybody with deep purse. Heaven forbid 1 of these magics are made to slay the king himself. An eye must be kept over them. And protection, yes, you cant have a prize like this be kidnapped or killed. So I see wizards being locked away in the kings tower, only being allowed to make things for the king. "for their own protection" </p><p></p><p>I think this will add emphasis to other classes abilities, other spells...and over all paranoia. The world is unsafe and now the high level spell casters wont be able to avoid situations with a snap of the fingers.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p><p></p><p>Eman</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eman Resu, post: 6836952, member: 100340"] I know there exists a list of prestige classes, feats & spells that are commonly banned by DMs. Most often the reasoning for such exclusions, "its too powerful" "its broken". Some examples are Planar Shepherd, incantatrix, wish (and like spells). I am interested in removing the Teleport Spell and to a lesser degree "gimping" plane travel. I would like for the gaming world Im creating to be void of these, forcing conventional travel by all but the gods. I would like to see how you think this would effect society? Think about it, a world where Wizards cant just pull out there get out of jail free cards" thusly avoiding sticky situations. Gandalf had to ride a horse, ok sometimes a giant eagle, he did not have teleport, but if he did, the movie(s) would of never happened. Grab Hobbit, teleport, throw ring, 2 minute movie, roll the credits its all over. How do you envision the effects/affects of this? I foresee wizard towers with a lot of defenses, more defenses, lots of man power, more conventional in nature. Oh sure, they can turn inviso, fly, maybe both, but the easy escape of plane travel or teleport are to have never existed being reserved for only the gods. High level wizards would be more easily contained, controlled and excluded. A wizard would make a valuable ally but a horrible enemy, as is the case already. But now they cant come and go as they please. A king cant just "allow" them to make and sell to anybody with deep purse. Heaven forbid 1 of these magics are made to slay the king himself. An eye must be kept over them. And protection, yes, you cant have a prize like this be kidnapped or killed. So I see wizards being locked away in the kings tower, only being allowed to make things for the king. "for their own protection" I think this will add emphasis to other classes abilities, other spells...and over all paranoia. The world is unsafe and now the high level spell casters wont be able to avoid situations with a snap of the fingers. Thoughts? Eman [/QUOTE]
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