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<blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 3038425" data-attributes="member: 35678"><p>How do you figure that? If properly designed, and with a few tweaks to the system as-is, and you'd have it, basically. In any case, bring some stuff to back up what you're saying please - I can only guess your reasoning, and want to actually have a discuss, not a list fo statements <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not even close. Light or no-armour fighter is still <em>vastly</em> underpowered, and does even have Tumble or Balance on his class skills list, which is a big loss.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Great point, HB. I am not familiar with the AD&D kits other than their purpose, but with the unifying mechanic of the d20 system, the supposed wildly un-balanced AD&D Kits could be tweaked to be more in line with 3.X's base powerline, which would be great <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>My original point exactly, but put in better words by far. Thansk for that <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p> Well, There are some superfluous base classes that, in actuality, belong in the PrC realm, IMO. Ranger, as a specialized hunter and woodsman, does. Druid, with their very specific flavour and abilities, does. Monk doesn't belong there AT ALL, etc. Then, bring in the Scout class, the Pugilist class, the Shaman class, et al and let-r rip. There are some archetypes that just aren't there, which is a pity, really. </p><p></p><p>We need the proper mechanics to back up the appropriate fluff, and can then go from there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyaricus, post: 3038425, member: 35678"] How do you figure that? If properly designed, and with a few tweaks to the system as-is, and you'd have it, basically. In any case, bring some stuff to back up what you're saying please - I can only guess your reasoning, and want to actually have a discuss, not a list fo statements ;) Not even close. Light or no-armour fighter is still [i]vastly[/i] underpowered, and does even have Tumble or Balance on his class skills list, which is a big loss. Great point, HB. I am not familiar with the AD&D kits other than their purpose, but with the unifying mechanic of the d20 system, the supposed wildly un-balanced AD&D Kits could be tweaked to be more in line with 3.X's base powerline, which would be great :D My original point exactly, but put in better words by far. Thansk for that :D Well, There are some superfluous base classes that, in actuality, belong in the PrC realm, IMO. Ranger, as a specialized hunter and woodsman, does. Druid, with their very specific flavour and abilities, does. Monk doesn't belong there AT ALL, etc. Then, bring in the Scout class, the Pugilist class, the Shaman class, et al and let-r rip. There are some archetypes that just aren't there, which is a pity, really. We need the proper mechanics to back up the appropriate fluff, and can then go from there. [/QUOTE]
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