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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7356266" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Sure, but within the context of the conversation at hand, it is not accurate to say "ravens are crows." The complaint was made that sentient talking ravens in Curse of Strahd were dumb. The rebuttal was made that crows are highly intelligent and capable of mimicking human speech, and in fantasy fiction, ravens tend to share this attribute. From context, it is clear that the rebuttal is using the words "crow" and "raven" to refer to distinct groups of Corvidae, much as the terms "jackdaw," "rook," "magpie," etc. refer to several different species within the genus.</p><p></p><p>It would be accurate to counter this argument by pointing out that most species of raven are just as capable of mimickry as most species of crow. Or that there is very little actual distinction between species with "crow" and "raven" in their common names, apart from ravens generally being slightly bigger. But to try to rebut it by going after the usage of the words crow and raven is just pedantic. Furthermore, claiming that "ravens are crows" despite the fact that there is a convention in the common names of corvid species of referring to the larger species as ravens and the smaller as crows, while not technically inaccurate, is certainly dubious, given that it is contrary to the way the words are actually <u>used</u> in common parlance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7356266, member: 6779196"] Sure, but within the context of the conversation at hand, it is not accurate to say "ravens are crows." The complaint was made that sentient talking ravens in Curse of Strahd were dumb. The rebuttal was made that crows are highly intelligent and capable of mimicking human speech, and in fantasy fiction, ravens tend to share this attribute. From context, it is clear that the rebuttal is using the words "crow" and "raven" to refer to distinct groups of Corvidae, much as the terms "jackdaw," "rook," "magpie," etc. refer to several different species within the genus. It would be accurate to counter this argument by pointing out that most species of raven are just as capable of mimickry as most species of crow. Or that there is very little actual distinction between species with "crow" and "raven" in their common names, apart from ravens generally being slightly bigger. But to try to rebut it by going after the usage of the words crow and raven is just pedantic. Furthermore, claiming that "ravens are crows" despite the fact that there is a convention in the common names of corvid species of referring to the larger species as ravens and the smaller as crows, while not technically inaccurate, is certainly dubious, given that it is contrary to the way the words are actually [U]used[/U] in common parlance. [/QUOTE]
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