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<blockquote data-quote="QuietBrowser" data-source="post: 7077344" data-attributes="member: 6855057"><p>I know that this is an old comment, but I saw nobody replied to it: thing is, the Manual of Planes for 4e <em>does</em> have a <strong>huge</strong> sidebar that takes up almost the entirety of page 15 talking about how to convert the Great Wheel to run under 4e assumptions. The details on the outer planes are bare bones, but, if you know the Great Wheel enough to want it back, do you really <em>need</em> more than "Hades (Evil): A gloomy plane of despair and disease, like the worst parts of the Shadowfell" or "The Abyss (Chaotic Evil): As described in Chapter 4, although in this cosmology the Abyss consists of layered infinite planes. The Abyss is an Outer Plane in this cosmology and is not part of the elemental planes. Demons should be treated as immortals rather than elementals"?</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, they went with their own thing for 4th edition, and I personally loved it for that, but they did tell you that if you wanted to bring back the old cosmology, you can do it pretty easily and here's how you can reshape the entire multiverse to fit that old model. About the only thing they left out was the Para- and Quasielemental Planes, saying that there's "only" Six Inner Elemental Planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietBrowser, post: 7077344, member: 6855057"] I know that this is an old comment, but I saw nobody replied to it: thing is, the Manual of Planes for 4e [i]does[/i] have a [b]huge[/b] sidebar that takes up almost the entirety of page 15 talking about how to convert the Great Wheel to run under 4e assumptions. The details on the outer planes are bare bones, but, if you know the Great Wheel enough to want it back, do you really [i]need[/i] more than "Hades (Evil): A gloomy plane of despair and disease, like the worst parts of the Shadowfell" or "The Abyss (Chaotic Evil): As described in Chapter 4, although in this cosmology the Abyss consists of layered infinite planes. The Abyss is an Outer Plane in this cosmology and is not part of the elemental planes. Demons should be treated as immortals rather than elementals"? So, yeah, they went with their own thing for 4th edition, and I personally loved it for that, but they did tell you that if you wanted to bring back the old cosmology, you can do it pretty easily and here's how you can reshape the entire multiverse to fit that old model. About the only thing they left out was the Para- and Quasielemental Planes, saying that there's "only" Six Inner Elemental Planes. [/QUOTE]
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