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<blockquote data-quote="deganawida" data-source="post: 8945688" data-attributes="member: 67836"><p>I personally would have loved for fantasy TTRPGs to have been inspired by something other than Vance (NOTE: Not making a judgment call on Vance's writings or Jack Vance himself). D&D's magic system from the beginning had nothing to do with historical magical practices or beliefs. A game as you describe with rituals, summoning, alchemy, prayers, with additions of hexes, charms, enchantments, chants, and more would have been far more fantastical to me. The D&D magic user is an artillery piece; the historical magic user was someone who sought understanding or control, and interceded with the divine or spiritual in some fashion.</p><p></p><p>Now, we have games out there where magic is inspired by Tolkien more than Vance. But what if it was inspired more by Lloyd Alexander? Most magic would be wrapped up in things or beings, rather than in spells and blasts. Classical magical items like crystal balls and harps, as well as oracular pigs, would be more important. Songs and speeches could be magical, influencing people in ways. Magic could be built to serve the needs of the setting, invested in a large pot or a majestic deer, and you could tie the treasure-seeking of D&D with these magical objects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="deganawida, post: 8945688, member: 67836"] I personally would have loved for fantasy TTRPGs to have been inspired by something other than Vance (NOTE: Not making a judgment call on Vance's writings or Jack Vance himself). D&D's magic system from the beginning had nothing to do with historical magical practices or beliefs. A game as you describe with rituals, summoning, alchemy, prayers, with additions of hexes, charms, enchantments, chants, and more would have been far more fantastical to me. The D&D magic user is an artillery piece; the historical magic user was someone who sought understanding or control, and interceded with the divine or spiritual in some fashion. Now, we have games out there where magic is inspired by Tolkien more than Vance. But what if it was inspired more by Lloyd Alexander? Most magic would be wrapped up in things or beings, rather than in spells and blasts. Classical magical items like crystal balls and harps, as well as oracular pigs, would be more important. Songs and speeches could be magical, influencing people in ways. Magic could be built to serve the needs of the setting, invested in a large pot or a majestic deer, and you could tie the treasure-seeking of D&D with these magical objects. [/QUOTE]
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