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Perhaps the ones here in Los Angeles are different...
They are. The capture zones for my one surviving B&N might include a half a million people, total, where the city of LA alone has close to four million residents. Even allowing for the legendary LA traffic splitting that between locations (how many is several - three/ four? more?) your individual stores are serving a lot more people than ours does.

B&N went from four free-standing stores within plausible driving distances to one mall location around here, and that final survivor has less footage and massively reduced their hours since they moved in - which was well before COVID, but they contracted even further since. You're in a true metropolis, the second largest city in the US by a large margin. The market there is very different from the relatively sparse Albany area, and B&N treats smaller markets very differently to larger ones, even more so these days with them chasing secondary income from games and toys since Kids R Us collapsed. If I went down to NYC I'd probably find stores that look more like LA's do, but they don't appear upstate any more. Heck, the only two-story book store we ever had was a long-defunct Borders.

Be happy you've got better options for booksellers because of your higher population density. Around here the big box stores moved in, shut down the mid-sized mall shops their parent companies owned already (eg Waldenbooks, B Dalton's) and killed off almost all the indie stores. Now that B&N is fading and Borders is long gone we've been left with a bookseller void that drives people to Amazon - or to other media, all too often. Whole sector of local business practically vanished in the course of maybe twenty years of rapid change.
 

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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
They are. The capture zones for my one surviving B&N might include a half a million people, total, where the city of LA alone has close to four million residents. Even allowing for the legendary LA traffic splitting that between locations (how many is several - three/ four? more?) your individual stores are serving a lot more people than ours does.

B&N went from four free-standing stores within plausible driving distances to one mall location around here, and that final survivor has less footage and massively reduced their hours since they moved in - which was well before COVID, but they contracted even further since. You're in a true metropolis, the second largest city in the US by a large margin. The market there is very different from the relatively sparse Albany area, and B&N treats smaller markets very differently to larger ones, even more so these days with them chasing secondary income from games and toys since Kids R Us collapsed. If I went down to NYC I'd probably find stores that look more like LA's do, but they don't appear upstate any more. Heck, the only two-story book store we ever had was a long-defunct Borders.

Be happy you've got better options for booksellers because of your higher population density. Around here the big box stores moved in, shut down the mid-sized mall shops their parent companies owned already (eg Waldenbooks, B Dalton's) and killed off almost all the indie stores. Now that B&N is fading and Borders is long gone we've been left with a bookseller void that drives people to Amazon - or to other media, all too often. Whole sector of local business practically vanished in the course of maybe twenty years of rapid change.
We have 8 in the Los Angles area. There are three that I go to on a regular basis. Burbank, Calabasas and a 9th location just outside of the Los Angeles area(I'm close to Ventura county), but still fairly close by. And there's a 10th location also nearby Los Angeles that I think I've been to once. Definitely not starved for books here.
 

We have 8 in the Los Angles area.
Really shows off the sheer difference in scale between LA and your more average semi-urban clump of 2-4 neighboring cities with populations down in one-two hundred thousand range. And even that kind of density is rare in many parts of the country where the next "real" city over is hours away.

Being in any US city with a population of a million or more is still pretty rare, even in 2024.
 

Eyes of Nine

Everything's Fine
We have 8 in the Los Angles area. There are three that I go to on a regular basis. Burbank, Calabasas and a 9th location just outside of the Los Angeles area(I'm close to Ventura county), but still fairly close by. And there's a 10th location also nearby Los Angeles that I think I've been to once. Definitely not starved for books here.
We're practically neighbors! (Santa Barbara area here... and no Barnes & Nobles here)
 



I'm reminded of a 4e adventure I ran where the PCs were escorting a tribute to a white dragon to keep it from raiding a settlement. Being the overconfident jerks they were they were contemplating just killing it and running off with the tribute right up until they discovered it only took white marble statuary in payment and the lightest piece in the lot was 600 pounds. At that point they settled for the payment they'd been offered and looting the bandits and smart-ish monsters that tried to stop their little wagon train so they could use the tribute to negotiate with the town or the dragon themselves. If they'd tried negotiating the bandits might have let them in for a cut of the extort-the-town scheme, but that wasn't a sure thing and they were in the mood for murder anyway so it didn't happen.

Having an artistically-inclined white dragon instead of the usual crude, animalistic type was a nice change of pace, and having to deliver awkward treasure somewhere instead of trying to haul it back from the dungeon was another trope inversion.
 
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