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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6166966" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>You missed a couple of steps there, although, to be fair, they were optional, but IMO, very widely used - proficiencies and weapon specialization. That that that added a whole lot of time, but, it did add some.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, let's be fair here. You're comparing the easiest 2e character to make to 4e characters, all of which are about the same difficulty. Compare your 2e wizard or cleric and things start to look pretty much the same. Or a 2e thief where you had to spend your percentage points on your skills, modify those skills for the armor and race of the character and note down a number of special abilities.</p><p></p><p>Although, why are you calculating the attack bonuses separately for each power? Virtually all powers, with few exceptions will use the same stat and have the same attack bonus. Damage will vary, but, that's noted in the power. Saving throws? Fair enough. That will take longer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but, let's not get too deep into the idiosyncrasies of your group. Using PHB only, which is what you're doing for 2e as well, I cannot possibly see how it can take 2 hours to make a character in 4e. That's ludicrous. I mean, it's spelled out in detailed steps in the PHB. Follow the steps and you're done.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you're using fifteen different source books, fair enough. But, that's not edition dependent. Make your 2e fighter using the Complete Fighter and various other 2e splats and see how long it takes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Advanced math? What advanced math? Adding two or three numbers together? Sure, the CB makes it easier, no one will argue that. But, it's hardly necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6166966, member: 22779"] You missed a couple of steps there, although, to be fair, they were optional, but IMO, very widely used - proficiencies and weapon specialization. That that that added a whole lot of time, but, it did add some. But, let's be fair here. You're comparing the easiest 2e character to make to 4e characters, all of which are about the same difficulty. Compare your 2e wizard or cleric and things start to look pretty much the same. Or a 2e thief where you had to spend your percentage points on your skills, modify those skills for the armor and race of the character and note down a number of special abilities. Although, why are you calculating the attack bonuses separately for each power? Virtually all powers, with few exceptions will use the same stat and have the same attack bonus. Damage will vary, but, that's noted in the power. Saving throws? Fair enough. That will take longer. Yes, but, let's not get too deep into the idiosyncrasies of your group. Using PHB only, which is what you're doing for 2e as well, I cannot possibly see how it can take 2 hours to make a character in 4e. That's ludicrous. I mean, it's spelled out in detailed steps in the PHB. Follow the steps and you're done. Now, if you're using fifteen different source books, fair enough. But, that's not edition dependent. Make your 2e fighter using the Complete Fighter and various other 2e splats and see how long it takes. Advanced math? What advanced math? Adding two or three numbers together? Sure, the CB makes it easier, no one will argue that. But, it's hardly necessary. [/QUOTE]
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