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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5893657"><p>I don't count weird races as innovation either, it's just expansion and including more options. Innovation would be say, adding something to the "Core 4" to make them less boring. Basic should not be associated with "bland".</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe to you, but I certainly don't consider it fantasy is there's only humans and monsters, it's kinda a dumb duality.</p><p>As for "monstrous PCs" I think this evokes a bit of soft racism, much like "demi human" that I really can stand to live without. Aside from setting books, the "core books" should be written from a perspective neutral view, not from a humanocentric one. Dragonborn and Tieflings are only monstrous if we assume that humanity is not. That's why I argue for racial neutrality, in a setting populated primarily by elves and gnomes(both fey descendants), humans are likely to be the "savage species" and I'm sure many elves would consider dwarves "monstrous" with those short, fat, hairy bodies.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is it? Since when? 2nd edition? There hasn't been an edition of D&D I've played that has regarded the "Core four" as generic. In 3e and 4e(the editions I'm most familiar wit and played the most of), they go to pretty great lengths to give each race it's own particular favor and styling. I'd hardly call them "generic".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5893657"] I don't count weird races as innovation either, it's just expansion and including more options. Innovation would be say, adding something to the "Core 4" to make them less boring. Basic should not be associated with "bland". Maybe to you, but I certainly don't consider it fantasy is there's only humans and monsters, it's kinda a dumb duality. As for "monstrous PCs" I think this evokes a bit of soft racism, much like "demi human" that I really can stand to live without. Aside from setting books, the "core books" should be written from a perspective neutral view, not from a humanocentric one. Dragonborn and Tieflings are only monstrous if we assume that humanity is not. That's why I argue for racial neutrality, in a setting populated primarily by elves and gnomes(both fey descendants), humans are likely to be the "savage species" and I'm sure many elves would consider dwarves "monstrous" with those short, fat, hairy bodies. Is it? Since when? 2nd edition? There hasn't been an edition of D&D I've played that has regarded the "Core four" as generic. In 3e and 4e(the editions I'm most familiar wit and played the most of), they go to pretty great lengths to give each race it's own particular favor and styling. I'd hardly call them "generic". [/QUOTE]
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