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<blockquote data-quote="Pauln6" data-source="post: 9258227" data-attributes="member: 6777422"><p>Just checked my 1e DMG. Magic armour did not boost saves. Cloaks of Protection did but only worked with no armour, mundane leather armour, or bracers of defence - the AC bonus didn't even stack with a shield (basically it was for rogues and wizards). You had two ring slots because if you wore two magic rings on the same hand, neither functioned. The most powerful Ring of Protection added +3 to saves, so your 17th level fighter could have got his save vs magic down to 5 but only had a 7% chance of finding a +3 ring. There may well have been other magic items but I think you have a fair bit of Mandela effect going on. </p><p></p><p>Our 5e 16th level Fighter/Barbarian has +9 vs Strength saves, +8 vs Dex and Con (so the equivalent of 11 & 12 under the 1e rules) but the difference is the 5e fighter isn't always saving against the same DC. Against DC10, his save is 2, against DC15, his save is 6 or 7. His Lucky feat and Shield Master feats also help him save. They aren't directly comparable but I think you are over-egging the 1e saves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauln6, post: 9258227, member: 6777422"] Just checked my 1e DMG. Magic armour did not boost saves. Cloaks of Protection did but only worked with no armour, mundane leather armour, or bracers of defence - the AC bonus didn't even stack with a shield (basically it was for rogues and wizards). You had two ring slots because if you wore two magic rings on the same hand, neither functioned. The most powerful Ring of Protection added +3 to saves, so your 17th level fighter could have got his save vs magic down to 5 but only had a 7% chance of finding a +3 ring. There may well have been other magic items but I think you have a fair bit of Mandela effect going on. Our 5e 16th level Fighter/Barbarian has +9 vs Strength saves, +8 vs Dex and Con (so the equivalent of 11 & 12 under the 1e rules) but the difference is the 5e fighter isn't always saving against the same DC. Against DC10, his save is 2, against DC15, his save is 6 or 7. His Lucky feat and Shield Master feats also help him save. They aren't directly comparable but I think you are over-egging the 1e saves. [/QUOTE]
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