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<blockquote data-quote="RedShirtNo5" data-source="post: 2198287" data-attributes="member: 173"><p>Garnfellow, this is absolutely fantastic stuff. Thanks for the work on it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is my view. It was ages ago so my memory of it is limited, but I was in a group of about 8 level 9 PCs who managed to defeat a L18 lich. The 1E high level spells weren't tremendously powerful (a 20d6 fireball was nearly as bad as a meteor storm). The lich could take out a PC per round with its no-save spells. A prepared party of 8 PCs would probably have a decent chance if they could get the fighters close and hack at it.</p><p> </p><p>The encounter is somewhat strange anyway. From memory, Asberdies doesn't have any constructs or minions. He's not hidden in the middle of a huge trap-filled maze. I think he's lonely and wants a chance to talk.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This raises a fundamental problem of the conversion of D1-3 series itself. If the players run through G1-3 first, and G3 is converted "as is", a group of PCs starting D1 will almost certainly be level 14-15. They would walk over a 13th level wizard lich (as well as everything else in the module). </p><p> </p><p>Final note regarding the whip - remember the tentacle rods. What weapon proficiency is needed to use them? Whip would be a reasonable choice. Although the tentacle rods are probably more like a flail than a whip.</p><p> </p><p>-RedShirt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedShirtNo5, post: 2198287, member: 173"] Garnfellow, this is absolutely fantastic stuff. Thanks for the work on it. This is my view. It was ages ago so my memory of it is limited, but I was in a group of about 8 level 9 PCs who managed to defeat a L18 lich. The 1E high level spells weren't tremendously powerful (a 20d6 fireball was nearly as bad as a meteor storm). The lich could take out a PC per round with its no-save spells. A prepared party of 8 PCs would probably have a decent chance if they could get the fighters close and hack at it. The encounter is somewhat strange anyway. From memory, Asberdies doesn't have any constructs or minions. He's not hidden in the middle of a huge trap-filled maze. I think he's lonely and wants a chance to talk. This raises a fundamental problem of the conversion of D1-3 series itself. If the players run through G1-3 first, and G3 is converted "as is", a group of PCs starting D1 will almost certainly be level 14-15. They would walk over a 13th level wizard lich (as well as everything else in the module). Final note regarding the whip - remember the tentacle rods. What weapon proficiency is needed to use them? Whip would be a reasonable choice. Although the tentacle rods are probably more like a flail than a whip. -RedShirt [/QUOTE]
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