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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6245083" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Yep. If there's no save, you can't reduce the DC!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed on this as well - counterspelling is generally a poor option, and this feat (and its prerequisite) are likewise quite weak. So beefing up the feat probably wouldn't hurt.</p><p></p><p>I'd be inclined to apply the same penalty to touch attacks as to the save DC (as the design intent, I believe, was for the touch attack and the save to be rough equivalents). I might even consider a house rule whereby if you use a counterspell of one level lower than the target spell, it turns that "no save" spell into a "save negates" spell - but, having said that, if the <em>target of the spell</em> also has some effect whereby he would automatically succeed on the save, I wouldn't let that apply!</p><p></p><p>Note though that that's just off the top of my head - there may well be balance issues, and it's certainly well within the realm of house rules!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6245083, member: 22424"] Yep. If there's no save, you can't reduce the DC! Agreed on this as well - counterspelling is generally a poor option, and this feat (and its prerequisite) are likewise quite weak. So beefing up the feat probably wouldn't hurt. I'd be inclined to apply the same penalty to touch attacks as to the save DC (as the design intent, I believe, was for the touch attack and the save to be rough equivalents). I might even consider a house rule whereby if you use a counterspell of one level lower than the target spell, it turns that "no save" spell into a "save negates" spell - but, having said that, if the [i]target of the spell[/i] also has some effect whereby he would automatically succeed on the save, I wouldn't let that apply! Note though that that's just off the top of my head - there may well be balance issues, and it's certainly well within the realm of house rules! [/QUOTE]
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