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<blockquote data-quote="smathis" data-source="post: 4165763" data-attributes="member: 56465"><p>Yeah but I think it remains to be seen how those woodsy abilities would work on Athas, where Elves are pretty much nomadic Desert Gypsies. If the fluff of the 4e racial abilities is easy to tweak and the Elven racial abilities could fit into that role, I'd say go for it. Barring that, my preference would be Eladrin.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, yeah. I understand that. I'm talking more about the presentation. Maenads just appeared one day in the city of Tyr walking out of the desert. Within a short span of time, they became valuable advisors to the King. You could do the same with Tiefings.</p><p></p><p>Just say they came walking out of the North/South/wherever from a city called Bael Turath. No one knows much about them, other than they shared some secret knowledge with the Sorcerer King upon their arrival and now have the King's ear.</p><p></p><p>That basically casts the Tieflings in the same sort of role as Maenads in DS. But I think it fits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough. I understand about not wanting to cut stuff out. Maybe clerics can worship entities out in the desert -- like the Djinns in Arabic folklore.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd recommend keeping them. But as monsters (maybe use the Gnome?) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I played in a game with a player who played a cannibal halfling. It was very annoying. But I'm willing to put forward that was as much the player as anything. Still, the idea of having a cannibal in the party kind of dampers the Epic feel I like to milk out of Dark Sun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I still say paladins. But we can agree to disagree. Templars healing works, especially if they're healing themselves. Otherwise, I think it gets hard to justify the Paladin in the setting. There aren't any holy orders. And clerics are mostly hermits that live out in the desert and worship things like Mud and Fire.</p><p></p><p>Maybe Paladins can be recast as Psionic Warriors?</p><p></p><p>I'd prefer that they would take over the Templar class. But YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smathis, post: 4165763, member: 56465"] Yeah but I think it remains to be seen how those woodsy abilities would work on Athas, where Elves are pretty much nomadic Desert Gypsies. If the fluff of the 4e racial abilities is easy to tweak and the Elven racial abilities could fit into that role, I'd say go for it. Barring that, my preference would be Eladrin. Oh, yeah. I understand that. I'm talking more about the presentation. Maenads just appeared one day in the city of Tyr walking out of the desert. Within a short span of time, they became valuable advisors to the King. You could do the same with Tiefings. Just say they came walking out of the North/South/wherever from a city called Bael Turath. No one knows much about them, other than they shared some secret knowledge with the Sorcerer King upon their arrival and now have the King's ear. That basically casts the Tieflings in the same sort of role as Maenads in DS. But I think it fits. Fair enough. I understand about not wanting to cut stuff out. Maybe clerics can worship entities out in the desert -- like the Djinns in Arabic folklore. I'd recommend keeping them. But as monsters (maybe use the Gnome?) ;) I played in a game with a player who played a cannibal halfling. It was very annoying. But I'm willing to put forward that was as much the player as anything. Still, the idea of having a cannibal in the party kind of dampers the Epic feel I like to milk out of Dark Sun. I still say paladins. But we can agree to disagree. Templars healing works, especially if they're healing themselves. Otherwise, I think it gets hard to justify the Paladin in the setting. There aren't any holy orders. And clerics are mostly hermits that live out in the desert and worship things like Mud and Fire. Maybe Paladins can be recast as Psionic Warriors? I'd prefer that they would take over the Templar class. But YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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