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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5795519" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>I understand your points, and I think you've had some valid thoughts in this thread, but I think the point that people are trying to make is that the subject of the thread isn't about the edition wars. It's very specifically about the new VTT.</p><p> </p><p>I believe that constructive criticism of the VTT is not just okay, but is exactly what WotC needs and wants. As such, any constructive criticism I'm sure would be greatly appreciated by both WotC and our fellow posters. For those that don't want to hear any criticism whatsoever, I believe they are wrong, and are just going to have to live with it.</p><p> </p><p>I really don't think that anything concerning the edition wars or peoples complaints are in danger of being forgotten. I also don't believe there are any clear victors in the edition wars. I think it's good that WotC has realized and acknowledged some of the mistakes they made, but that does not mean that the edition wars were inherently a constructive thing. Besides, if there's one thing I've learned from 21 years in the military, nobody <em><strong>wins</strong></em> a War (or a fight). Objectives may be achieved, but once one needs to resort to fighting, one has already lost. I would imagine that there are some casualties of the edition wars that can never be convinced to come back because of them. That's a loss no matter who is considered to have <em>"won"</em>. That makes me quite sad.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So, back to discussion and criticisms of the VTT.</p><p> </p><p>I agree that some may find the voice fonts more annoying than helpful. I haven't heard them yet myself, but to me they sound quite intriguing. I'm actually pretty good with voices, so I really don't need them. But not everyone can do that, and may really like the feature. But even I am interested in playing around with them. They sound like they may be a fun toy. And let's be honest, D&D is just a fun toy also. We may be mostly adults who play, but it's still playing.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>I think WotC has gone a long way towards making the VTT something quite good. I am seriously impressed by the multiple ruleset support. I'd really still like character/monster/encounter builders for the other edtions also. So the importability that 4E players enjoy, and that D&D next will enjoy, is also there for all edtions. But that would be for development much farther down the road. They've got other fish to fry right now.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> But, in the future, I'd also like to see virtual minis as part of the VTT, and not just tokens. I've never really liked tokens. I prefer the environment to look as realistic as possible.</p><p> </p><p>They still have one other major thing to address though before I'll give DDI another try, and that's a return of downloadable books. If they do that, I'm back in. I certainly hope they do as I'm getting quite excited about the future of D&D. I see some really good things coming down the pipe, and this VTT seems a really good step in that direction.</p><p> </p><p>For those who've used it already, does the VTT have the ability to have a pleyer only point of view? Can it gray or black out areas of the map that the PC's haven't explored yet? If not, those are definitely features that I would want also.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5795519, member: 59506"] I understand your points, and I think you've had some valid thoughts in this thread, but I think the point that people are trying to make is that the subject of the thread isn't about the edition wars. It's very specifically about the new VTT. I believe that constructive criticism of the VTT is not just okay, but is exactly what WotC needs and wants. As such, any constructive criticism I'm sure would be greatly appreciated by both WotC and our fellow posters. For those that don't want to hear any criticism whatsoever, I believe they are wrong, and are just going to have to live with it. I really don't think that anything concerning the edition wars or peoples complaints are in danger of being forgotten. I also don't believe there are any clear victors in the edition wars. I think it's good that WotC has realized and acknowledged some of the mistakes they made, but that does not mean that the edition wars were inherently a constructive thing. Besides, if there's one thing I've learned from 21 years in the military, nobody [I][B]wins[/B][/I] a War (or a fight). Objectives may be achieved, but once one needs to resort to fighting, one has already lost. I would imagine that there are some casualties of the edition wars that can never be convinced to come back because of them. That's a loss no matter who is considered to have [I]"won"[/I]. That makes me quite sad. So, back to discussion and criticisms of the VTT. I agree that some may find the voice fonts more annoying than helpful. I haven't heard them yet myself, but to me they sound quite intriguing. I'm actually pretty good with voices, so I really don't need them. But not everyone can do that, and may really like the feature. But even I am interested in playing around with them. They sound like they may be a fun toy. And let's be honest, D&D is just a fun toy also. We may be mostly adults who play, but it's still playing.;) I think WotC has gone a long way towards making the VTT something quite good. I am seriously impressed by the multiple ruleset support. I'd really still like character/monster/encounter builders for the other edtions also. So the importability that 4E players enjoy, and that D&D next will enjoy, is also there for all edtions. But that would be for development much farther down the road. They've got other fish to fry right now.:D But, in the future, I'd also like to see virtual minis as part of the VTT, and not just tokens. I've never really liked tokens. I prefer the environment to look as realistic as possible. They still have one other major thing to address though before I'll give DDI another try, and that's a return of downloadable books. If they do that, I'm back in. I certainly hope they do as I'm getting quite excited about the future of D&D. I see some really good things coming down the pipe, and this VTT seems a really good step in that direction. For those who've used it already, does the VTT have the ability to have a pleyer only point of view? Can it gray or black out areas of the map that the PC's haven't explored yet? If not, those are definitely features that I would want also. B-) [/QUOTE]
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