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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5680213" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Let 'em argue with the actual spellcasters for the devices. See who wins- there can't be enough for EVERYONE.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>XP costs, for one. Other crafting supplies. GP cost. Crafting takes campaign time, during which the crafter can't do much of anything else...like adventuring.</p><p></p><p>I don't know about YOUR players, but nobody in our group plays a spellcaster in order to stagnate his own progress in order to kit out the party.</p><p></p><p>(FWIW, the only person remotely resembling an optimizer in our group routinely plays mages. As in 85% of his PCs since I met him in 1985. And with essentially the same spell list for each one except his 4Ed one.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it doesn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IOW, you still have to have significant skill points invested in UMD- and thus, significant levels- to have a decent chance at doing so. The fighter who wishes to emulate shapechanging for purposes of using a magical device? He's getting very few skill points per level, and its a cross-class skill for him besides: he'll be significantly high in level before his emulation of druidic shapechange is even remotely dependable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5680213, member: 19675"] Let 'em argue with the actual spellcasters for the devices. See who wins- there can't be enough for EVERYONE. XP costs, for one. Other crafting supplies. GP cost. Crafting takes campaign time, during which the crafter can't do much of anything else...like adventuring. I don't know about YOUR players, but nobody in our group plays a spellcaster in order to stagnate his own progress in order to kit out the party. (FWIW, the only person remotely resembling an optimizer in our group routinely plays mages. As in 85% of his PCs since I met him in 1985. And with essentially the same spell list for each one except his 4Ed one.) No it doesn't. IOW, you still have to have significant skill points invested in UMD- and thus, significant levels- to have a decent chance at doing so. The fighter who wishes to emulate shapechanging for purposes of using a magical device? He's getting very few skill points per level, and its a cross-class skill for him besides: he'll be significantly high in level before his emulation of druidic shapechange is even remotely dependable. [/QUOTE]
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