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<blockquote data-quote="Talonblaze" data-source="post: 5680290" data-attributes="member: 6680256"><p>[MENTION=19675]Dannyalcatraz[/MENTION]</p><p></p><p>Hrm, well I am mostly a player, not a DM. This issue arose when someone was discussing it. To us it seemed like it was quite over the top.</p><p></p><p>Plus we heard UMD is usually banned by most or limited. Which if what is said is true, why? If its not so bad, or hardly any benefit why do most do so?</p><p></p><p>Our DM hasn't banned it yet, but he's looking for material as to do so, or not. Hesitant to restrict it if things get quite out of hand. Preferring balance. Our group just seemed to find it silly that its possible for my Paladin to pick up the wizards prepared scrolls, use the skill and cast it without any other knowledge or levels regardless of the level.</p><p></p><p>(Also, if a higher level spell than the party caster level is obtained, couldn't a UMD technically allow them to cast it prior to even full casters being able? IE: 4 Rogue with +10 [+7 ranks +3 cha] UMD would only need a 26 to be able to cast Fireball before the Wizard? Seems a tad silly.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Talonblaze, post: 5680290, member: 6680256"] [MENTION=19675]Dannyalcatraz[/MENTION] Hrm, well I am mostly a player, not a DM. This issue arose when someone was discussing it. To us it seemed like it was quite over the top. Plus we heard UMD is usually banned by most or limited. Which if what is said is true, why? If its not so bad, or hardly any benefit why do most do so? Our DM hasn't banned it yet, but he's looking for material as to do so, or not. Hesitant to restrict it if things get quite out of hand. Preferring balance. Our group just seemed to find it silly that its possible for my Paladin to pick up the wizards prepared scrolls, use the skill and cast it without any other knowledge or levels regardless of the level. (Also, if a higher level spell than the party caster level is obtained, couldn't a UMD technically allow them to cast it prior to even full casters being able? IE: 4 Rogue with +10 [+7 ranks +3 cha] UMD would only need a 26 to be able to cast Fireball before the Wizard? Seems a tad silly.) [/QUOTE]
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