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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2740804" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Fair enough. But, for every Malhavoc Press, how many d20 publishers foist off books full of typos and glaring errors?</p><p></p><p>That's the point I'm trying to make. Many people, myself included, tend to lump products into two categories: WOTC and Everyone Else. I'm very sure that there are many people like me who have bought d20 products only to see such horrible quality that they'll never buy another. I've yet to see a 3.5 WOTC book that has those kinds of errors. Maybe I just don't buy enough books. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>It does seem to me that WOTC is in a bit of a catch-22. They are getting blasted for not being original enough while at the same time are getting hammered for not bringing in new gamers. I really don't think you can do both. Let's face it, Eberron is NOT geared to older gamers like me. It doesn't draw from the traditional fantasy elements like Howard or Tolkein. It draws from what's popular now - anime, Harry Potter, and the like. And that's great. Drawing on traditional fantasy elements would have about zero interest value to a fourteen year old gamer. What do they care about Conan? Conan is something their GRANDPARENT'S read. Would you be interested in a game based on books your parents read? By drawing on what's popular now (and has been popular for long enough to say that it's not just a fad), hopefully they can start to draw in a younger audience. A younger audience doesn't need a spiffy new magic system because the standard system is new to them. They don't need an alternative character system, because the class based system is new to them.</p><p></p><p>WOTC is doing exactly what the market leader should be doing - expanding the market. If WOTC started publishing "innovative" alternative rule books, people would be complaining about how they are agressively forcing the d20 publishers out of business. WOTC is catering to new gamers, the ones that are going to have to buy PHB's in addition to their Explorers Guide to Eberron. And I say more power to them. So long as they keep targetting new gamers by publishing books that stay fairly true to "core", they will continue to draw new gamers. And that can't be bad for the hobby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 2740804, member: 22779"] Fair enough. But, for every Malhavoc Press, how many d20 publishers foist off books full of typos and glaring errors? That's the point I'm trying to make. Many people, myself included, tend to lump products into two categories: WOTC and Everyone Else. I'm very sure that there are many people like me who have bought d20 products only to see such horrible quality that they'll never buy another. I've yet to see a 3.5 WOTC book that has those kinds of errors. Maybe I just don't buy enough books. :) It does seem to me that WOTC is in a bit of a catch-22. They are getting blasted for not being original enough while at the same time are getting hammered for not bringing in new gamers. I really don't think you can do both. Let's face it, Eberron is NOT geared to older gamers like me. It doesn't draw from the traditional fantasy elements like Howard or Tolkein. It draws from what's popular now - anime, Harry Potter, and the like. And that's great. Drawing on traditional fantasy elements would have about zero interest value to a fourteen year old gamer. What do they care about Conan? Conan is something their GRANDPARENT'S read. Would you be interested in a game based on books your parents read? By drawing on what's popular now (and has been popular for long enough to say that it's not just a fad), hopefully they can start to draw in a younger audience. A younger audience doesn't need a spiffy new magic system because the standard system is new to them. They don't need an alternative character system, because the class based system is new to them. WOTC is doing exactly what the market leader should be doing - expanding the market. If WOTC started publishing "innovative" alternative rule books, people would be complaining about how they are agressively forcing the d20 publishers out of business. WOTC is catering to new gamers, the ones that are going to have to buy PHB's in addition to their Explorers Guide to Eberron. And I say more power to them. So long as they keep targetting new gamers by publishing books that stay fairly true to "core", they will continue to draw new gamers. And that can't be bad for the hobby. [/QUOTE]
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