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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7173476" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>They do have a listed rarity, but the rule seems to suggest that it overrides the listed rarity (edit: in the adventure, not on the cert, if you have one) for items that have additional abilities. (Which only makes sense -- an item that has a certain ability plus some other ability is not necessarily of the same 'rarity' as a similar item with the same certain ability but not the other ability.) The caveat is that the DMG lists what might be considered 'common' additional quirks, abilities, drawbacks, etc., for magical items that are typical enough to not affect the item's overall rarity. (So while not every pair of magical boots allows the wearer to also speak and understand Gnomish, enough items in general do this so that that the additional ability to speak and understand Gnomish in and of itself does not make such an item any more 'rare' in game terms.)</p><p></p><p>(Edit: An example seems called for -- if you have the item from DDEX 1-3 and you do not hae the cert that tells you the item's rarity, look in the DMG. The ability described in the adventure is actually listed on pp.142-143 of the DMG -- it's the ability listed under a roll of 16 on the 'Who Created It or Was Intended To Use It" table -- so the rarity of the item is identical to that listed in the DMG. If you do have the cert, then the rarity on the cert holds unless it is different from that in the DMG, in which case either use the DMG's rarity as noted under 'What If I Think My Cert Has an Error?', or the rarity in errata if errata has been issued.</p><p></p><p>However, if you have the item from DDEX 1-14 and you do not have the cert for it, you will find that the 'glows faintly within 100 feet of a source of strong elemental power' ability is not listed in the charts on pp.142-143 of the DMG, thus this item's rarity is Unique without the cert. If you do have the cert, then the item is of the rarity listed on the cert, again taking into account the caveats in the previous example.</p><p></p><p>Because of the wording of Dedicated DM, the item from DDEX 1-3 is a valid selection regardless of whether or not the character also has the cert for the item, but the item from DDEX 1-14 is not a valid selection unless the cert is included that indicates the item is not of Unique rarity.)</p><p></p><p>Even if you take the heading of the rule I quoted in the original post as rules-significant and explicitly referring to items that don't have a listed rarity in the adventure ("I don't know what my item's rarity is" is pretty vague, though, and can easily apply to a player who doesn't have access to the adventure text), there is an additional rule ("What if the Certificate Lists a Rarity?") that further explains that any item without a complete description (and most items in DDAL/DDXP adventures do not have a complete description in the module, relying on the text in the DMG to describe the abilities of an item) are Unique unless you have a cert that establishes the rarity of the item. In that case, you must include the cert as part of any trade (so you can't take such an item in trade unless you can also get the physical cert, either from an in-person trade, or perhaps through the use of USPS physical mail, etc.).</p><p></p><p>If an admin wants to clarify the situation, I'd be happy to hear about it.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7173476, member: 17607"] They do have a listed rarity, but the rule seems to suggest that it overrides the listed rarity (edit: in the adventure, not on the cert, if you have one) for items that have additional abilities. (Which only makes sense -- an item that has a certain ability plus some other ability is not necessarily of the same 'rarity' as a similar item with the same certain ability but not the other ability.) The caveat is that the DMG lists what might be considered 'common' additional quirks, abilities, drawbacks, etc., for magical items that are typical enough to not affect the item's overall rarity. (So while not every pair of magical boots allows the wearer to also speak and understand Gnomish, enough items in general do this so that that the additional ability to speak and understand Gnomish in and of itself does not make such an item any more 'rare' in game terms.) (Edit: An example seems called for -- if you have the item from DDEX 1-3 and you do not hae the cert that tells you the item's rarity, look in the DMG. The ability described in the adventure is actually listed on pp.142-143 of the DMG -- it's the ability listed under a roll of 16 on the 'Who Created It or Was Intended To Use It" table -- so the rarity of the item is identical to that listed in the DMG. If you do have the cert, then the rarity on the cert holds unless it is different from that in the DMG, in which case either use the DMG's rarity as noted under 'What If I Think My Cert Has an Error?', or the rarity in errata if errata has been issued. However, if you have the item from DDEX 1-14 and you do not have the cert for it, you will find that the 'glows faintly within 100 feet of a source of strong elemental power' ability is not listed in the charts on pp.142-143 of the DMG, thus this item's rarity is Unique without the cert. If you do have the cert, then the item is of the rarity listed on the cert, again taking into account the caveats in the previous example. Because of the wording of Dedicated DM, the item from DDEX 1-3 is a valid selection regardless of whether or not the character also has the cert for the item, but the item from DDEX 1-14 is not a valid selection unless the cert is included that indicates the item is not of Unique rarity.) Even if you take the heading of the rule I quoted in the original post as rules-significant and explicitly referring to items that don't have a listed rarity in the adventure ("I don't know what my item's rarity is" is pretty vague, though, and can easily apply to a player who doesn't have access to the adventure text), there is an additional rule ("What if the Certificate Lists a Rarity?") that further explains that any item without a complete description (and most items in DDAL/DDXP adventures do not have a complete description in the module, relying on the text in the DMG to describe the abilities of an item) are Unique unless you have a cert that establishes the rarity of the item. In that case, you must include the cert as part of any trade (so you can't take such an item in trade unless you can also get the physical cert, either from an in-person trade, or perhaps through the use of USPS physical mail, etc.). If an admin wants to clarify the situation, I'd be happy to hear about it. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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