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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3037168" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>I had another thought of a scenario to see what the 'all OOC comments during battle are metagaming' crowd would say (for those keeping count, you can place me generally in the fusangite school of thought on this issue).</p><p></p><p>Player1: Okay, I'm casting Scorching Ray. I roll a 23, and that's 4d6 Damage.</p><p>GM: Okay, you singe the blackguard's nice armour. Roll damage.</p><p>Player2: Wait a minute. Bob, your Sorcerer is 7th level, right?</p><p>Player1: Yeah, so?</p><p>Player2: That means you get <em>two</em> rays when you cast the spell.</p><p>Player1: Really, I thought that was at 8th.</p><p>GM: Me too.</p><p>Player2: Nope, 7th--check it out.</p><p>Player1: Wow, sweet. You're right. I forgot to check that--thanks Tom.</p><p></p><p>So would the response from a 'all such comments are metagaming' GM be more like</p><p></p><p>GM: Yeah, good catch Tom. That's something that would be true regardless, so it was okay to bring it up in this case.</p><p></p><p>(the above is what I expect, by the way) or more like </p><p></p><p>GM: Uhhh...how dare you deign to give OOC advice during combat! Clearly Bob's character...uhhh...uhmm...look! It says you can voluntarily lower your caster level on any spell to the minimum required to cast it. So clearly, without telling us, Bob lowered his caster level to 6 on the spell--you could tell when he shot only one ray. As for you, Tom, stop metagaming--you're ruining it for everyone!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3037168, member: 29014"] I had another thought of a scenario to see what the 'all OOC comments during battle are metagaming' crowd would say (for those keeping count, you can place me generally in the fusangite school of thought on this issue). Player1: Okay, I'm casting Scorching Ray. I roll a 23, and that's 4d6 Damage. GM: Okay, you singe the blackguard's nice armour. Roll damage. Player2: Wait a minute. Bob, your Sorcerer is 7th level, right? Player1: Yeah, so? Player2: That means you get [I]two[/I] rays when you cast the spell. Player1: Really, I thought that was at 8th. GM: Me too. Player2: Nope, 7th--check it out. Player1: Wow, sweet. You're right. I forgot to check that--thanks Tom. So would the response from a 'all such comments are metagaming' GM be more like GM: Yeah, good catch Tom. That's something that would be true regardless, so it was okay to bring it up in this case. (the above is what I expect, by the way) or more like GM: Uhhh...how dare you deign to give OOC advice during combat! Clearly Bob's character...uhhh...uhmm...look! It says you can voluntarily lower your caster level on any spell to the minimum required to cast it. So clearly, without telling us, Bob lowered his caster level to 6 on the spell--you could tell when he shot only one ray. As for you, Tom, stop metagaming--you're ruining it for everyone! [/QUOTE]
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