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Deities in D&D: Gods as Tulpas versus Gods as Progenitors
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<blockquote data-quote="MechaTarrasque" data-source="post: 8850664" data-attributes="member: 6801226"><p>Nice write up. In my homebrew, I go for a refinement of the fairly common idea that pantheons of gods represent civilization vs. primordial nature (in this case, a bunch of god monsters, some of whom eventually became gods (as seen by Sekolah creating the identity of Malar to influence the non-aquatic world). Each god represents some civilized notion (good or bad, and there about as many of both), and usually show up to some humanoids or fey about the time they are trying to move up from hunting and gathering and try to impress the natives. Some notions take better with some groups, and this has led to the mistaken notion of racial gods, which gods will try to correct or confirm as it benefits their interest.</p><p></p><p>They aren't directly interested in souls (that is pretty much alignment outsiders' thing), but they do recruit among alignment outsiders whose goals parallel theirs to be their servants (devils like to work for the God of Tyranny, and not just because Asmodeus used to be a devil, but also because tyranny causes a lot of LE behavior). Some alignment outsiders even seek out gods of different alignments hoping to sway the god, thus many a LG angel is serving a CG god hoping to push the god to respectability like Jeeves with Wooster.</p><p></p><p>Some (possibly all) gods fuse with a non-god for a time, and sometimes this results in the non-god taking over for the god (Asmodeus being a "good" example of an alignment outsider taking over a god's gig). Other gods don't seem to be disturbed by this. They were disturbed when Lolth, after being displaced from godhood, made a deal with the Subconscious of the Abyss to steal another godhood in exchange for spending part of her year as a demon lord (who acts much more juvenile and capricious [albeit still very cruel] then her cold, calculating goddess self). Steps were taken to make sure that couldn't happen again.</p><p></p><p>Other than having my player's PC's encounter a pair of drunken wizards debating whether gods were part of some earlier extra-universal incursion (like the more recent Far Realm one), I have never spent much time on why they gods exist (if they players didn't care, I didn't have much reason to give it more thought).</p><p></p><p>I have pretty much pilfered Pathfinder and the 4e pantheon (and occasionally some other god) for the pantheon. No use completely reinventing the wheel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaTarrasque, post: 8850664, member: 6801226"] Nice write up. In my homebrew, I go for a refinement of the fairly common idea that pantheons of gods represent civilization vs. primordial nature (in this case, a bunch of god monsters, some of whom eventually became gods (as seen by Sekolah creating the identity of Malar to influence the non-aquatic world). Each god represents some civilized notion (good or bad, and there about as many of both), and usually show up to some humanoids or fey about the time they are trying to move up from hunting and gathering and try to impress the natives. Some notions take better with some groups, and this has led to the mistaken notion of racial gods, which gods will try to correct or confirm as it benefits their interest. They aren't directly interested in souls (that is pretty much alignment outsiders' thing), but they do recruit among alignment outsiders whose goals parallel theirs to be their servants (devils like to work for the God of Tyranny, and not just because Asmodeus used to be a devil, but also because tyranny causes a lot of LE behavior). Some alignment outsiders even seek out gods of different alignments hoping to sway the god, thus many a LG angel is serving a CG god hoping to push the god to respectability like Jeeves with Wooster. Some (possibly all) gods fuse with a non-god for a time, and sometimes this results in the non-god taking over for the god (Asmodeus being a "good" example of an alignment outsider taking over a god's gig). Other gods don't seem to be disturbed by this. They were disturbed when Lolth, after being displaced from godhood, made a deal with the Subconscious of the Abyss to steal another godhood in exchange for spending part of her year as a demon lord (who acts much more juvenile and capricious [albeit still very cruel] then her cold, calculating goddess self). Steps were taken to make sure that couldn't happen again. Other than having my player's PC's encounter a pair of drunken wizards debating whether gods were part of some earlier extra-universal incursion (like the more recent Far Realm one), I have never spent much time on why they gods exist (if they players didn't care, I didn't have much reason to give it more thought). I have pretty much pilfered Pathfinder and the 4e pantheon (and occasionally some other god) for the pantheon. No use completely reinventing the wheel. [/QUOTE]
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