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<blockquote data-quote="Christopher Helton" data-source="post: 7725919" data-attributes="member: 6804772"><p>The new <strong>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy</strong> game is getting out into the wilds, and into the hands of gamers. This <strong>Powered By GURPS</strong> boxed set funded on <strong>Kickstarter</strong> just over a year ago. The standalone game is inspired by the <strong>Dungeons & Dragons</strong> school of fantasy role-playing (as the name implies) and spins out of a successful line of PDF and print products for <strong>Steve Jackson Games'</strong> fourth edition of their <strong>GURPS</strong> role-playing game. There is a lot of good, and a few not as good things to be found in this big, fancy box, so let's open it up and talk about what is inside.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH]89571[/ATTACH]</p><p>[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK]</p><p>I don't think that any regular <strong>EN World</strong> reader needs to have the genre of <strong>D&D</strong> styled dungeon fantasy explained to them. There are a number of different genres that fit under the umbrella of fantasy fiction, and <strong>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy</strong> hits the familiar tropes of things like "Kill them and take their stuff," dungeon crawling adventures and combat-oriented characters. There's obviously a lot more to the genre of "dungeon fantasy" than just that, but those are some of the points of commonality to that style of campaign play. It is also easy to take the characters out of the dungeons with this game, and explore other tropes, and other styles of play.</p><p></p><p>The <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> boxed set is intended as an introduction to the fourth edition of the <strong>GURPS</strong> game system, and doesn't require any other <strong>GURPS</strong> books for play. You can, however, plug in any number of <strong>GURPS</strong> fourth edition supplements into your <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> games. The rule changes between third and fourth edition (which are outside of the scope of this review) means that you won't be able to use materials for the previous edition without a bit of work. However, the fourth edition has been out for over a decade now and there is no shortage of material for the system, in both PDF and print.</p><p></p><p>There is a lot in the game's box: cardboard standees, a set of three six-sided dice, an introductory adventure (<strong>I Smell A Rat</strong>) with maps, three softcover core rulebooks and a monster book. The rulebooks are <strong>Adventurers</strong> (the character creation rules), <strong>Spells</strong> (more in depth explanations of the magic rules and spell list) and <strong>Exploits</strong> (the mechanics of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules).</p><p></p><p>The rules in <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> are the fourth edition of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules. There is streamlining, and pieces left out of this game that are in the core rules, but the basic complexity of the game is the same as those core rules. If that is an issue for you, then <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> probably isn't the game for you. A couple of the streamlining choices that were made for <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> were puzzling to me. Both techniques and perks from the core rules were dropped for <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. I can understand moving away from techniques, as they do add a level of complication to skills that don't make a lot of sense for what is intended to be an introduction to the <strong>GURPS</strong> game, but perks can be a good tool for customization in a game like this.</p><p></p><p>One of the more important things for players in a game is niche protection, the idea that each character has something that they excel at and that sets them apart from other characters in a group. Perks (for those who have never played <strong>GURPS</strong> fourth edition) are little 1-point "advantages" that give characters little benefits. This means things like a tolerance to alcohol, or fur. When properly utilized they can be little role-playing hooks that let similar characters be different from each other. To a degree, perks and techniques are worked into the optional special abilities of character templates, so they are sort of there in the game.</p><p></p><p>If you didn't know, GURPS has a point buy system for character creation. "Starting," inexperienced characters utilize 250 points in their creation. The power level of characters can be scaled up or down from that baseline, depending on the type of game being run. Character creation is done by choosing a professional template for your character. Each of these templates is supposed to cost 250 points (if you pick it out at the basics, without any customization) and if you want to build anything beyond those basics, you will need to take some disadvantages to give your character some extra points. Each template is designed with popular <strong>D&D</strong> character classes in mind (like the Warrior, Cleric, Wizard and Thief) and other variations from fiction and history (like Barbarians, Knights and Druids). Picking a professional template gives your character all the attributes, skills, advantages and disadvantages that they will need to play. One top of the basics, there are traits that can be picked for characters, for further customization, at extra costs.</p><p></p><p>The templates could be a bit better explained in places, as the text is a little vague in a few spots telling what is and isn't considered basics or customization. There is also a <em>lot</em> of text in these templates, which could be intimidating to some new players who aren't familiar with <strong>GURPS</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Of course, you don't have to use all the templates in the <strong>Adventurers</strong> book. All of the advantages, disadvantages and skills are outlined in the book, so if you want to make a completely unique character you can.</p><p></p><p>Does <strong>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy</strong> succeed as an introduction to fantasy role-playing? I will give this a qualified yes. There is an assumption that people picking up this boxed set will have some level of experience with the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules themselves. While the rules are well-explained and the text is clearly written, there could have been a few places where they could have stopped and thought about how new people would interact with those rules. It would also have been good to see a little discussion on the tropes of dungeon fantasy itself. I know that this isn't always the <strong>GURPS</strong> approach, but it is helpful to new players and it is why the Appendix N has become its own trope to dungeon fantasy games inspired by <strong>Dungeons & Dragons</strong>.</p><p></p><p>I don't want this to look like I am being overly negative about <strong>GURPS</strong> or <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. I am a (slightly recovered) fan of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules, and spent a number of years playing the game (mostly the third edition). One of the greatest strengths of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules is that you get exactly the character that you want to play. There are no classes, or other aspects, that can put characters into a mold. If you want to play a character that has the background as a user of magic, while still demonstrating some competence with a sword, you can do that with <strong>GURPS</strong>. Yes, it can take some time to do this, and there can be a bit of math involved in the process. This is part of what the professional and racial templates work to streamline for <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. Like I said earlier in this review, if you were expecting <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> to somehow not be what makes the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules <strong>GURPS</strong>, then you should probably look to a different fantasy game.</p><p></p><p>If, however, you want a role-playing game that rewards attention to detail and system mastery, then you should check out <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. With <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> you get a game that has everything that you need to play for months and years, and on top of that you get a system with <strong>GURPS</strong> that has hundreds, if not thousands, of pages of support that you can use to expand and enrich your games. <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> is a well-designed game that is based upon many hours of play-based experience, which can be a rarity in tabletop role-playing games. The <strong>GURPS</strong> rules are a finely tuned play experience that gives what it says it will give. If you want a role-playing game that expertly blends the tropes of dungeon fantasy with the sensibilities of a well designed rules set in a colorful and pretty package, then you will want to check out <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. There are few role-playing games that manage to pull together the threads of fantasy and realism effectively, and the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules will always be at the top of that list.</p><p></p><p>There are pros and cons to every role-playing game, and I think that the pros outweigh the cons for <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>. With the right group of people, this is a game that will really sing, and that will give hours and hours of entertainment. With <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong>, the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules and <strong>Steve Jackson Games</strong> are actively back in the tabletop role-playing market, with a game that can once again be a player in that market. I hope that <strong>Dungeon Fantasy</strong> catches the eye of an audience and takes off because I would like to one day see a <strong>GURPS Horror</strong> boxed set that I can use to run my horror games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christopher Helton, post: 7725919, member: 6804772"] The new [B]GURPS Dungeon Fantasy[/B] game is getting out into the wilds, and into the hands of gamers. This [B]Powered By GURPS[/B] boxed set funded on [B]Kickstarter[/B] just over a year ago. The standalone game is inspired by the [B]Dungeons & Dragons[/B] school of fantasy role-playing (as the name implies) and spins out of a successful line of PDF and print products for [B]Steve Jackson Games'[/B] fourth edition of their [B]GURPS[/B] role-playing game. There is a lot of good, and a few not as good things to be found in this big, fancy box, so let's open it up and talk about what is inside. [CENTER][ATTACH=CONFIG]89571[/ATTACH][/CENTER] [PRBREAK][/PRBREAK] I don't think that any regular [B]EN World[/B] reader needs to have the genre of [B]D&D[/B] styled dungeon fantasy explained to them. There are a number of different genres that fit under the umbrella of fantasy fiction, and [B]GURPS Dungeon Fantasy[/B] hits the familiar tropes of things like "Kill them and take their stuff," dungeon crawling adventures and combat-oriented characters. There's obviously a lot more to the genre of "dungeon fantasy" than just that, but those are some of the points of commonality to that style of campaign play. It is also easy to take the characters out of the dungeons with this game, and explore other tropes, and other styles of play. The [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] boxed set is intended as an introduction to the fourth edition of the [B]GURPS[/B] game system, and doesn't require any other [B]GURPS[/B] books for play. You can, however, plug in any number of [B]GURPS[/B] fourth edition supplements into your [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] games. The rule changes between third and fourth edition (which are outside of the scope of this review) means that you won't be able to use materials for the previous edition without a bit of work. However, the fourth edition has been out for over a decade now and there is no shortage of material for the system, in both PDF and print. There is a lot in the game's box: cardboard standees, a set of three six-sided dice, an introductory adventure ([B]I Smell A Rat[/B]) with maps, three softcover core rulebooks and a monster book. The rulebooks are [B]Adventurers[/B] (the character creation rules), [B]Spells[/B] (more in depth explanations of the magic rules and spell list) and [B]Exploits[/B] (the mechanics of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules). The rules in [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] are the fourth edition of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules. There is streamlining, and pieces left out of this game that are in the core rules, but the basic complexity of the game is the same as those core rules. If that is an issue for you, then [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] probably isn't the game for you. A couple of the streamlining choices that were made for [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] were puzzling to me. Both techniques and perks from the core rules were dropped for [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. I can understand moving away from techniques, as they do add a level of complication to skills that don't make a lot of sense for what is intended to be an introduction to the [B]GURPS[/B] game, but perks can be a good tool for customization in a game like this. One of the more important things for players in a game is niche protection, the idea that each character has something that they excel at and that sets them apart from other characters in a group. Perks (for those who have never played [B]GURPS[/B] fourth edition) are little 1-point "advantages" that give characters little benefits. This means things like a tolerance to alcohol, or fur. When properly utilized they can be little role-playing hooks that let similar characters be different from each other. To a degree, perks and techniques are worked into the optional special abilities of character templates, so they are sort of there in the game. If you didn't know, GURPS has a point buy system for character creation. "Starting," inexperienced characters utilize 250 points in their creation. The power level of characters can be scaled up or down from that baseline, depending on the type of game being run. Character creation is done by choosing a professional template for your character. Each of these templates is supposed to cost 250 points (if you pick it out at the basics, without any customization) and if you want to build anything beyond those basics, you will need to take some disadvantages to give your character some extra points. Each template is designed with popular [B]D&D[/B] character classes in mind (like the Warrior, Cleric, Wizard and Thief) and other variations from fiction and history (like Barbarians, Knights and Druids). Picking a professional template gives your character all the attributes, skills, advantages and disadvantages that they will need to play. One top of the basics, there are traits that can be picked for characters, for further customization, at extra costs. The templates could be a bit better explained in places, as the text is a little vague in a few spots telling what is and isn't considered basics or customization. There is also a [I]lot[/I] of text in these templates, which could be intimidating to some new players who aren't familiar with [B]GURPS[/B]. Of course, you don't have to use all the templates in the [B]Adventurers[/B] book. All of the advantages, disadvantages and skills are outlined in the book, so if you want to make a completely unique character you can. Does [B]GURPS Dungeon Fantasy[/B] succeed as an introduction to fantasy role-playing? I will give this a qualified yes. There is an assumption that people picking up this boxed set will have some level of experience with the [B]GURPS[/B] rules themselves. While the rules are well-explained and the text is clearly written, there could have been a few places where they could have stopped and thought about how new people would interact with those rules. It would also have been good to see a little discussion on the tropes of dungeon fantasy itself. I know that this isn't always the [B]GURPS[/B] approach, but it is helpful to new players and it is why the Appendix N has become its own trope to dungeon fantasy games inspired by [B]Dungeons & Dragons[/B]. I don't want this to look like I am being overly negative about [B]GURPS[/B] or [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. I am a (slightly recovered) fan of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules, and spent a number of years playing the game (mostly the third edition). One of the greatest strengths of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules is that you get exactly the character that you want to play. There are no classes, or other aspects, that can put characters into a mold. If you want to play a character that has the background as a user of magic, while still demonstrating some competence with a sword, you can do that with [B]GURPS[/B]. Yes, it can take some time to do this, and there can be a bit of math involved in the process. This is part of what the professional and racial templates work to streamline for [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. Like I said earlier in this review, if you were expecting [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] to somehow not be what makes the [B]GURPS[/B] rules [B]GURPS[/B], then you should probably look to a different fantasy game. If, however, you want a role-playing game that rewards attention to detail and system mastery, then you should check out [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. With [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] you get a game that has everything that you need to play for months and years, and on top of that you get a system with [B]GURPS[/B] that has hundreds, if not thousands, of pages of support that you can use to expand and enrich your games. [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] is a well-designed game that is based upon many hours of play-based experience, which can be a rarity in tabletop role-playing games. The [B]GURPS[/B] rules are a finely tuned play experience that gives what it says it will give. If you want a role-playing game that expertly blends the tropes of dungeon fantasy with the sensibilities of a well designed rules set in a colorful and pretty package, then you will want to check out [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. There are few role-playing games that manage to pull together the threads of fantasy and realism effectively, and the [B]GURPS[/B] rules will always be at the top of that list. There are pros and cons to every role-playing game, and I think that the pros outweigh the cons for [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B]. With the right group of people, this is a game that will really sing, and that will give hours and hours of entertainment. With [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B], the [B]GURPS[/B] rules and [B]Steve Jackson Games[/B] are actively back in the tabletop role-playing market, with a game that can once again be a player in that market. I hope that [B]Dungeon Fantasy[/B] catches the eye of an audience and takes off because I would like to one day see a [B]GURPS Horror[/B] boxed set that I can use to run my horror games. [/QUOTE]
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