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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7081387" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Outsider HD is a fairly powerful class, full BAB, 8 skill points per 'level', good saves. I wouldn't completely discount it as 'boring', and most of the classes you would add would tend to offer less bang for the buck.</p><p></p><p>I can think of several interesting approaches using my homebrew rules - champion, hunter, fanatic, sorcerer - but they are a lot less interesting in RAW. The thing about Bard or Rogue is that they are usually really weak when applied to an NPC, especially a BBEG. You can just some use out of them as a horde of rogue mooks, or bard mastermind type with a horde of mooks he's buffing, but both classes are support classes. You could go Sorcerer, but the sort of spell-abilities that a sorcerer gets would be pretty trivial additional powers until quite high level compared to the Glabrezu's natural attacks and abilities - still, a few levels of sorcerer with the right spells wouldn't go astray. Barbarian is always pretty good for BBEG, and you probably couldn't go wrong with fighter either but both mean you are planning to use the BBEG mostly as a combat brute. If you are big into 3.5, then I'd probably go with Factotum if you were wanting to play up this creature as cunning and treacherous - not that there is a lot of support for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7081387, member: 4937"] Outsider HD is a fairly powerful class, full BAB, 8 skill points per 'level', good saves. I wouldn't completely discount it as 'boring', and most of the classes you would add would tend to offer less bang for the buck. I can think of several interesting approaches using my homebrew rules - champion, hunter, fanatic, sorcerer - but they are a lot less interesting in RAW. The thing about Bard or Rogue is that they are usually really weak when applied to an NPC, especially a BBEG. You can just some use out of them as a horde of rogue mooks, or bard mastermind type with a horde of mooks he's buffing, but both classes are support classes. You could go Sorcerer, but the sort of spell-abilities that a sorcerer gets would be pretty trivial additional powers until quite high level compared to the Glabrezu's natural attacks and abilities - still, a few levels of sorcerer with the right spells wouldn't go astray. Barbarian is always pretty good for BBEG, and you probably couldn't go wrong with fighter either but both mean you are planning to use the BBEG mostly as a combat brute. If you are big into 3.5, then I'd probably go with Factotum if you were wanting to play up this creature as cunning and treacherous - not that there is a lot of support for that. [/QUOTE]
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