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<blockquote data-quote="Lancelot" data-source="post: 4063828" data-attributes="member: 30022"><p>Devils, and it's not even close. Three reasons...</p><p></p><p>1) The long-term scheming and manipulation is just more interesting to me than mindless destruction. Give me a Hannibal Lector over a chainsaw-wielding maniac any day.</p><p></p><p>2) The underdog nature of the devils (particularly in 2e). They're outnumbered at least 1,000-to-1 by the demons, but they're holding their own in the Blood War through brilliance and discipline. And that's with Asmodeus (c.f. "Guide to Hell") holding back a huge number of devils for a "confrontation with the Upper Planes that dwarfs the petty maneuverings of the Blood War". How cool is it when you're taking on the infinite hordes of the Abyss with a Thin Red Line?</p><p></p><p>3) The personalities. Yeah, Orcus is Orcus, Demogorgon is Demogorgon... blah blah. But the demons are, at the end of the day, mostly defined as monsters. Graz'zt is arguably the most complex of the demon lords (established history, siblings, generals, armies, children, goals and schemes, etc...), but he's more devil than demon anyway. The archdevils (and even some of the dukes of hell) are far better defined, in my opinion. There are so many uncounted Abyssal layers and lords that you can just add another Vucarik or Shami-Amourae or whatever. But there are only nine planes of Hell... nine archdevils... and every single one of them has been a big boy (or big girl) since the days of 1e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lancelot, post: 4063828, member: 30022"] Devils, and it's not even close. Three reasons... 1) The long-term scheming and manipulation is just more interesting to me than mindless destruction. Give me a Hannibal Lector over a chainsaw-wielding maniac any day. 2) The underdog nature of the devils (particularly in 2e). They're outnumbered at least 1,000-to-1 by the demons, but they're holding their own in the Blood War through brilliance and discipline. And that's with Asmodeus (c.f. "Guide to Hell") holding back a huge number of devils for a "confrontation with the Upper Planes that dwarfs the petty maneuverings of the Blood War". How cool is it when you're taking on the infinite hordes of the Abyss with a Thin Red Line? 3) The personalities. Yeah, Orcus is Orcus, Demogorgon is Demogorgon... blah blah. But the demons are, at the end of the day, mostly defined as monsters. Graz'zt is arguably the most complex of the demon lords (established history, siblings, generals, armies, children, goals and schemes, etc...), but he's more devil than demon anyway. The archdevils (and even some of the dukes of hell) are far better defined, in my opinion. There are so many uncounted Abyssal layers and lords that you can just add another Vucarik or Shami-Amourae or whatever. But there are only nine planes of Hell... nine archdevils... and every single one of them has been a big boy (or big girl) since the days of 1e. [/QUOTE]
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