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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5532580" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>There's a fair amount of agreement <em>between the sort of people who live on charops</em> as to which are the 'proud nails'. As to agreement about what to do about them, not hardly. Some have pretty obvious fixes, but those they really didn't need to bother charops about.</p><p></p><p>I understand what kaomera is getting at. It isn't easy to articulate really. The point is there is more to the success of the game than having the most mechanically flawless set of rules. In some ways that can be at odds with other valid goals. Like I said on another thread, a perfectly mechanically flawless Vampire is worthless if it doesn't give me mechanics that allow me to use it to evoke a good vampire character. 'fixing' it because it is mechanically broken would be counterproductive, unless it can be done in a way that doesn't destroy its utility. Charops is not capable of that kind of analysis, or at least they provide no extra insight into those kinds of decisions than any other random group of experienced gamers would. Nor is it necessarily the perspective of hardcore players that is the best one for the game to adopt.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, it is an interesting experiment but kaomera is right, it could well piss off more people than it pleases in the long run.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5532580, member: 82106"] There's a fair amount of agreement [i]between the sort of people who live on charops[/i] as to which are the 'proud nails'. As to agreement about what to do about them, not hardly. Some have pretty obvious fixes, but those they really didn't need to bother charops about. I understand what kaomera is getting at. It isn't easy to articulate really. The point is there is more to the success of the game than having the most mechanically flawless set of rules. In some ways that can be at odds with other valid goals. Like I said on another thread, a perfectly mechanically flawless Vampire is worthless if it doesn't give me mechanics that allow me to use it to evoke a good vampire character. 'fixing' it because it is mechanically broken would be counterproductive, unless it can be done in a way that doesn't destroy its utility. Charops is not capable of that kind of analysis, or at least they provide no extra insight into those kinds of decisions than any other random group of experienced gamers would. Nor is it necessarily the perspective of hardcore players that is the best one for the game to adopt. Anyway, it is an interesting experiment but kaomera is right, it could well piss off more people than it pleases in the long run. [/QUOTE]
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