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<blockquote data-quote="Ryujin" data-source="post: 7177771" data-attributes="member: 27897"><p>I'll certainly admit to bias as everyone has it, whether they know it or not. Where Axanar is concerned, however, I see a lot of blame to spread around on all sides. I just don't get the Star Trek feel from this show while, simultaneously and as previously mentioned, getting a definite feeling of something that had its birth in Star Trek fanfic; The Mary Sue. The lead character, who for the first time isn't the captain of a ship, looks like someone's wish fulfillment. From Wikipedia (admittedly not the best source, however...) <em>"First officer of the USS Shenzhou, referred to as "Number One". She was raised as a Vulcan by Sarek, and is the first human to attend the Vulcan Learning Center and Vulcan Science Academy. Executive producer Alex Kurtzman noted that Sarek's son Spock never mentioned a sister in the original series, and that they were careful to not break the existing canon. The show's protagonist was not made a starship captain, like those of previous Star Trek series, "to see a character from a different perspective on the starship—one who has different dynamic relationships with a captain, with subordinates, it gave us richer context""</em></p><p></p><p>Lighting - Seems like someone took a look at Abrams' work and decided to distance themselves as much as possible from lens flares. The result is a dark set reminiscent of the bridge of a submarine.</p><p></p><p>Uniforms - Say what you will but Star Fleet is a paramilitary organization along the lines of European navies from the empire building period; enforce, interdict, explore, take in the name of The Crown. As such a naval feel is essential, to me.</p><p></p><p>Insignia - See above discussion.</p><p></p><p>The Ship as Revealed - Half Fed half Klingon. Hate it. Of course that's purely subjective, but there are so many previous designs that are so much better. And yes, the Ares class from Axanar is just one of them. The Discovery feels like a kludge. Personally, I'd have gone for something along the lines of the <a href="http://strpg.patrickgoodman.org/documents/starships_resources/starships/Starfleet/Starfleet_Baker_NG.pdf" target="_blank">Baker Class Cruiser</a>, made period appropriate of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryujin, post: 7177771, member: 27897"] I'll certainly admit to bias as everyone has it, whether they know it or not. Where Axanar is concerned, however, I see a lot of blame to spread around on all sides. I just don't get the Star Trek feel from this show while, simultaneously and as previously mentioned, getting a definite feeling of something that had its birth in Star Trek fanfic; The Mary Sue. The lead character, who for the first time isn't the captain of a ship, looks like someone's wish fulfillment. From Wikipedia (admittedly not the best source, however...) [I]"First officer of the USS Shenzhou, referred to as "Number One". She was raised as a Vulcan by Sarek, and is the first human to attend the Vulcan Learning Center and Vulcan Science Academy. Executive producer Alex Kurtzman noted that Sarek's son Spock never mentioned a sister in the original series, and that they were careful to not break the existing canon. The show's protagonist was not made a starship captain, like those of previous Star Trek series, "to see a character from a different perspective on the starship—one who has different dynamic relationships with a captain, with subordinates, it gave us richer context""[/I] Lighting - Seems like someone took a look at Abrams' work and decided to distance themselves as much as possible from lens flares. The result is a dark set reminiscent of the bridge of a submarine. Uniforms - Say what you will but Star Fleet is a paramilitary organization along the lines of European navies from the empire building period; enforce, interdict, explore, take in the name of The Crown. As such a naval feel is essential, to me. Insignia - See above discussion. The Ship as Revealed - Half Fed half Klingon. Hate it. Of course that's purely subjective, but there are so many previous designs that are so much better. And yes, the Ares class from Axanar is just one of them. The Discovery feels like a kludge. Personally, I'd have gone for something along the lines of the [url=http://strpg.patrickgoodman.org/documents/starships_resources/starships/Starfleet/Starfleet_Baker_NG.pdf]Baker Class Cruiser[/url], made period appropriate of course. [/QUOTE]
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