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<blockquote data-quote="Tomalak" data-source="post: 5134059" data-attributes="member: 84172"><p>I remind you that the above is in keeping with the 4e cosmology - which we don't use. We have cast out their gods, let us cast out also anything else we don't like, and use what remains as we wish. After All, 'devil' just used to mean 'Baatorian Immortal', right? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I, too, prefer planescape to the new cosmology. It's an interesting alternative, but too simple for any non-prime based game. It's more like the stories mortals tell each other about the planes than any real place (IMO). </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what grouping you mean, however. I have begun lumping elementals in with immortals for 4e, rather than separating Demons out.</p><p></p><p>All Devils in planescape (that I recall) served for their own purposes. Usually because they were forced to, or because they saw it as a path to power. After all, Baator and The Abyss were not ruled by Gods, but by Archdevils and Demon Princes. I liked the Blood War, and would like to use it in some form. It could just be one powerful Demon Prince having an ages-old grudge with a particular Archdevil (something about a teddy bear? I don't know, they won't talk about it), or could be planes-wide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tomalak, post: 5134059, member: 84172"] I remind you that the above is in keeping with the 4e cosmology - which we don't use. We have cast out their gods, let us cast out also anything else we don't like, and use what remains as we wish. After All, 'devil' just used to mean 'Baatorian Immortal', right? I, too, prefer planescape to the new cosmology. It's an interesting alternative, but too simple for any non-prime based game. It's more like the stories mortals tell each other about the planes than any real place (IMO). I'm not sure what grouping you mean, however. I have begun lumping elementals in with immortals for 4e, rather than separating Demons out. All Devils in planescape (that I recall) served for their own purposes. Usually because they were forced to, or because they saw it as a path to power. After all, Baator and The Abyss were not ruled by Gods, but by Archdevils and Demon Princes. I liked the Blood War, and would like to use it in some form. It could just be one powerful Demon Prince having an ages-old grudge with a particular Archdevil (something about a teddy bear? I don't know, they won't talk about it), or could be planes-wide. [/QUOTE]
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