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<blockquote data-quote="covaithe" data-source="post: 5137139" data-attributes="member: 46559"><p>If the Adversary isn't to be Top Dog, I see him more as a separate archetype, rather than as the lord of the devils. More of an eternal outsider, subverting rather than conquering. I expect he would be solitary, relying on temporary deals or alliances with other powers, rather than having a horde of minions. His goals would be opaque, subtle, and long-term, rather than anything as obvious as conquest or power. </p><p></p><p>Is there any reason we couldn't just pinch Asmodeus for the devil lord? The name certainly isn't copyrighted; it's centuries old. We dress him up as a generic King of Hell type, bent on absolute power within his domain, and patient enough to let his domain grow at its own pace, as opportunity presents. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure I see a single ruler over the demons. I prefer the natural selection model, a la Blackdirge, where demons are constantly clawing their way to power, only to be dragged down themselves as soon as they reach the top. Only very rarely does a demon arise who can hold on to power over a long period of time and become a (semi) permanent fixture in the list of powers. Zal'Ekthees would be one of these, along with a small handful of others. </p><p></p><p>Where does Hecate fit in all of this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="covaithe, post: 5137139, member: 46559"] If the Adversary isn't to be Top Dog, I see him more as a separate archetype, rather than as the lord of the devils. More of an eternal outsider, subverting rather than conquering. I expect he would be solitary, relying on temporary deals or alliances with other powers, rather than having a horde of minions. His goals would be opaque, subtle, and long-term, rather than anything as obvious as conquest or power. Is there any reason we couldn't just pinch Asmodeus for the devil lord? The name certainly isn't copyrighted; it's centuries old. We dress him up as a generic King of Hell type, bent on absolute power within his domain, and patient enough to let his domain grow at its own pace, as opportunity presents. I'm not sure I see a single ruler over the demons. I prefer the natural selection model, a la Blackdirge, where demons are constantly clawing their way to power, only to be dragged down themselves as soon as they reach the top. Only very rarely does a demon arise who can hold on to power over a long period of time and become a (semi) permanent fixture in the list of powers. Zal'Ekthees would be one of these, along with a small handful of others. Where does Hecate fit in all of this? [/QUOTE]
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