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<blockquote data-quote="DalkonCledwin" data-source="post: 5910115" data-attributes="member: 6680145"><p>Let's count the ways...</p><p></p><p><strong>The 13th Warrior</strong> was as far as I can recall the first Sci-Fi or Fantasy Movie to actually feature the Translation Nightmare issue as a prominent feature of the Storyline.</p><p></p><p><strong>Stargate the Original Movie</strong> also featured this. In fact the primary reason Daniel Jackson was hired by the Stargate Facility was because he knew like 10 different languages and about 5 different dialects of each of them. So yes there was a significant amount of language issues in the original stargate movie. this was carried over but only to a slightly smaller extent in the actual TV Series' were many of the Aliens could be said to be speaking other languages, but for convenience sake they had them speaking English on the TV Screen so that we could understand them instead of having to use sub-titles all the time.</p><p></p><p><strong>Star Trek</strong> actually has a device called the <em>Universal Translator</em> built into the starships and comm devices of the starfleet personnel. In the Original Series Uhura's job was not just as a Communications Officer, but as a Xenolinguistics specialist. She was in charge of making sure that the Universal Translator was working 100% of the time. They in fact refer to her Xenolinguistics skills in the 2009 J.J. Abrams movie. In fact in the Star Trek Spin Off Series "Enterprise" they specifically go through the trouble of having someone on board specifically to program the very first Universal Translators!</p><p></p><p><strong>Star Wars</strong> If you actually listen close enough there are a number of various dialects being spoken throughout the movies, the most prominent being Huttese, Droid (R2-D2's language), and Wookie. As far as I know, none of the Star Wars Movies made use of what could be termed as a Universal Translator, thus for every single unique language that exists in that universe an individual would have to actually learn how to speak / understand that language. The closest to a universal translator in that series was C-3PO and the Translation Unit that allowed Luke and Anakin to understand what R2-D2 was saying while they were in the cockpit of their spacecraft.</p><p></p><p>So in short there are a wide variety of series that either utilize a universal translator, or completely ignore a universal translator, or find some way to mix the concept with a combination of using a universal translator and ignoring it.</p><p></p><p>Truth be told I think it is much more realistic to not have a Universal Translator, or at the very least to make it so that not all creatures on the planet are capable of utilizing said Universal Translator. For example in Star Trek there were several species whose language simply did not translate via the Universal Translator for some reason. Usually it had to do with the language being so unique or the vocal cords of the species so different, that it was simply impossible for the translator to compensate. One such species was the Horta whom the only viable method of communication was via Vulcan Mindmeld.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, Darth's and Droid's touches on this fact at least once throughout the series when one of the characters purposefully role plays their character asking where the Latrine is while in character.... Personally I think that kind of roleplaying is absolutely worth rewarding with XP rewards for staying in character! Though at the same time that kind of Role Playing has a much better impact in face to face role playing than it does over a play by post forum in my opinion. But still that is slightly off topic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And what would your opinion be if there were an Oracle who chose to take the Dual-Cursed Archtype and proceeded to take the Tongues and Deaf Curses... just to provide themselves with an extra bit of hurdles to overcome for Role Playing Purposes?</p><p></p><p>hurdles in and of themselves are not always a bad thing. Huge amounts of hurdles can be though. It's all a matter of quantity as well as the nature of the hurdles themselves as to whether they are a good or bad thing in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DalkonCledwin, post: 5910115, member: 6680145"] Let's count the ways... [b]The 13th Warrior[/b] was as far as I can recall the first Sci-Fi or Fantasy Movie to actually feature the Translation Nightmare issue as a prominent feature of the Storyline. [b]Stargate the Original Movie[/b] also featured this. In fact the primary reason Daniel Jackson was hired by the Stargate Facility was because he knew like 10 different languages and about 5 different dialects of each of them. So yes there was a significant amount of language issues in the original stargate movie. this was carried over but only to a slightly smaller extent in the actual TV Series' were many of the Aliens could be said to be speaking other languages, but for convenience sake they had them speaking English on the TV Screen so that we could understand them instead of having to use sub-titles all the time. [b]Star Trek[/b] actually has a device called the [i]Universal Translator[/i] built into the starships and comm devices of the starfleet personnel. In the Original Series Uhura's job was not just as a Communications Officer, but as a Xenolinguistics specialist. She was in charge of making sure that the Universal Translator was working 100% of the time. They in fact refer to her Xenolinguistics skills in the 2009 J.J. Abrams movie. In fact in the Star Trek Spin Off Series "Enterprise" they specifically go through the trouble of having someone on board specifically to program the very first Universal Translators! [b]Star Wars[/b] If you actually listen close enough there are a number of various dialects being spoken throughout the movies, the most prominent being Huttese, Droid (R2-D2's language), and Wookie. As far as I know, none of the Star Wars Movies made use of what could be termed as a Universal Translator, thus for every single unique language that exists in that universe an individual would have to actually learn how to speak / understand that language. The closest to a universal translator in that series was C-3PO and the Translation Unit that allowed Luke and Anakin to understand what R2-D2 was saying while they were in the cockpit of their spacecraft. So in short there are a wide variety of series that either utilize a universal translator, or completely ignore a universal translator, or find some way to mix the concept with a combination of using a universal translator and ignoring it. Truth be told I think it is much more realistic to not have a Universal Translator, or at the very least to make it so that not all creatures on the planet are capable of utilizing said Universal Translator. For example in Star Trek there were several species whose language simply did not translate via the Universal Translator for some reason. Usually it had to do with the language being so unique or the vocal cords of the species so different, that it was simply impossible for the translator to compensate. One such species was the Horta whom the only viable method of communication was via Vulcan Mindmeld. Actually, Darth's and Droid's touches on this fact at least once throughout the series when one of the characters purposefully role plays their character asking where the Latrine is while in character.... Personally I think that kind of roleplaying is absolutely worth rewarding with XP rewards for staying in character! Though at the same time that kind of Role Playing has a much better impact in face to face role playing than it does over a play by post forum in my opinion. But still that is slightly off topic. And what would your opinion be if there were an Oracle who chose to take the Dual-Cursed Archtype and proceeded to take the Tongues and Deaf Curses... just to provide themselves with an extra bit of hurdles to overcome for Role Playing Purposes? hurdles in and of themselves are not always a bad thing. Huge amounts of hurdles can be though. It's all a matter of quantity as well as the nature of the hurdles themselves as to whether they are a good or bad thing in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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