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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8701391" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>The thing about Star Wars is that the further you get from the original movies, the better Disney has been able to do with it.</p><p></p><p>The Mandalorian plays in the universe of the films but is not trying to tie directly into the films. It's the best live action Star Wars thing Disney has produced. The Book of Boba Fett is not nearly as good for a few reasons but a chunk of it is that it's picking up something directly from the movies instead of playing with something new in the universe.</p><p></p><p>Rogue One ties into the movies, and does it better than Boba Fett, but where it's good is where it's not really playing in the original movie space. Where it fails IMO is where it has to tie things back into the original movies and where it makes winks and nods.</p><p></p><p>The new trilogy is a mess mostly because they decided to "Exquisite Corpse" a "Mystery Box" idea from JJ Abrams instead of actually having, you know, a story to tell (how can you plan to spend nearly 1 billion dollars and not even have an outline of what you're planning to spend it on? How?). But it's also not good because it tries to tie too much into a story that is finished. It's over - we're done with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker and the rest. Their story is done, let them retire. There should be new challenges and new heroes and new villains. And they don't all have to be from the same family.</p><p></p><p>And then there's Solo. What can we say about Solo? It's the one that is most tied to the original movies and frankly it's the one that I find to be the most disappointing. At least the first two films of the sequel trilogy tried to do some new things. Solo is a movie where they felt like they had to give an origin to his name. "Why is he called Solo?" is a question that I never even thought to ask because <em>I just figured it was his last name and the author was engaging in some cute wordplay</em>. When you're making a movie at that level of explaining things about the previous movies rather than doing something creative and interesting, you really have to ask yourself why you're bothering. (I contend that the only way Solo would have worked is if they'd ramped up the humor in it and then, in a mid-credits scene, had Harrison Ford as Han Solo and Billy Dee Williams as Lando walking out of a holo theater playing "Solo" with Han complaining that they got everything wrong and it was nothing like that. Even then it wouldn't have been necessarily good but at least they could have had some fun with it instead of what it was)</p><p></p><p>(I haven't watched Kenobi yet. I just haven't had the energy to be disappointed by yet another Star Wars thing and I've been spending more of my sci-fi time on Star Trek instead.)</p><p></p><p>So my advice for Disney would be a) ask John Favreau if he has any other ideas for Star Wars Universe things and if he does maybe put him into the Kevin Feige role over Star Wars if he wants it because he of all of them seems to know what he's doing and b) do more things set in the Star Wars universe but that aren't just strip mining the movies for stuff. Just do some adventure stories set in the Star Wars universe! That's literally all I'm asking for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8701391, member: 19857"] The thing about Star Wars is that the further you get from the original movies, the better Disney has been able to do with it. The Mandalorian plays in the universe of the films but is not trying to tie directly into the films. It's the best live action Star Wars thing Disney has produced. The Book of Boba Fett is not nearly as good for a few reasons but a chunk of it is that it's picking up something directly from the movies instead of playing with something new in the universe. Rogue One ties into the movies, and does it better than Boba Fett, but where it's good is where it's not really playing in the original movie space. Where it fails IMO is where it has to tie things back into the original movies and where it makes winks and nods. The new trilogy is a mess mostly because they decided to "Exquisite Corpse" a "Mystery Box" idea from JJ Abrams instead of actually having, you know, a story to tell (how can you plan to spend nearly 1 billion dollars and not even have an outline of what you're planning to spend it on? How?). But it's also not good because it tries to tie too much into a story that is finished. It's over - we're done with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker and the rest. Their story is done, let them retire. There should be new challenges and new heroes and new villains. And they don't all have to be from the same family. And then there's Solo. What can we say about Solo? It's the one that is most tied to the original movies and frankly it's the one that I find to be the most disappointing. At least the first two films of the sequel trilogy tried to do some new things. Solo is a movie where they felt like they had to give an origin to his name. "Why is he called Solo?" is a question that I never even thought to ask because [I]I just figured it was his last name and the author was engaging in some cute wordplay[/I]. When you're making a movie at that level of explaining things about the previous movies rather than doing something creative and interesting, you really have to ask yourself why you're bothering. (I contend that the only way Solo would have worked is if they'd ramped up the humor in it and then, in a mid-credits scene, had Harrison Ford as Han Solo and Billy Dee Williams as Lando walking out of a holo theater playing "Solo" with Han complaining that they got everything wrong and it was nothing like that. Even then it wouldn't have been necessarily good but at least they could have had some fun with it instead of what it was) (I haven't watched Kenobi yet. I just haven't had the energy to be disappointed by yet another Star Wars thing and I've been spending more of my sci-fi time on Star Trek instead.) So my advice for Disney would be a) ask John Favreau if he has any other ideas for Star Wars Universe things and if he does maybe put him into the Kevin Feige role over Star Wars if he wants it because he of all of them seems to know what he's doing and b) do more things set in the Star Wars universe but that aren't just strip mining the movies for stuff. Just do some adventure stories set in the Star Wars universe! That's literally all I'm asking for. [/QUOTE]
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