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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 161968" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>What is this "immune" thing you keep mentioning? Nothing on a creature is immune to dispel magic, even if dispel magic is targeting their mage armor, it will effect everything on the creature. The only reason that "targeting a spell" is mentioned in the description of Dispel Magic is so that it is made clear that you can target and attempt to dispel and ongoing spell, such as stinking cloud.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's <strong>not</strong> pass this one. I still have no idea what the heck you're talking about when you mention "immune". If the fighter is targeted with a dispel magic, nothing on him is "immune" to the dispel attempt, not even the Greater Magic Weapon spell on his sword.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would you need any information about a Stinking Cloud spell? You can see the horrid looking puff of smoke filling a huge area. That's information enough. You see the cloud, target it, bang.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would you bother targeting a creature's sword or helm when it's just as easy to just target the creature? Answer: You don't. You just target the creature. Why? There is no point in targeting the helm or sword. Why? Because you get no bonus for targeting the creature and all his gear as a whole, nor do you get a penalty for specifically targeting his sword. Thus, targeting an item held by a creature is pointless, as the creature is considered part of the item, and the item is considered part of the creature. Why? Because the item is "attended".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right. But like I said, doing so is absolutely pointless. However, you don't need a hard and fast rule in a book to figure this out. It's pretty simple enough.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a really thin argument. If you have three lemons lined up in front of you, and the sage points to the one in the middle and says "That's a lemon." then walks away, do you just naturally assume the other two are not lemons because the sage didn't say they were? That's what you're trying to do with the sage reply above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is where I disagree with you. I don't think your argument makes any sense, as the evidence is there in front of you. Granted, I'll respect your right to your own interpretation of the rules and sage reply, but you're still wrong. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It has already been clarified. Reread the sage reply about 50 more times. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand that you're confused, yes. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 161968, member: 2829"] What is this "immune" thing you keep mentioning? Nothing on a creature is immune to dispel magic, even if dispel magic is targeting their mage armor, it will effect everything on the creature. The only reason that "targeting a spell" is mentioned in the description of Dispel Magic is so that it is made clear that you can target and attempt to dispel and ongoing spell, such as stinking cloud. Let's [b]not[/b] pass this one. I still have no idea what the heck you're talking about when you mention "immune". If the fighter is targeted with a dispel magic, nothing on him is "immune" to the dispel attempt, not even the Greater Magic Weapon spell on his sword. Why would you need any information about a Stinking Cloud spell? You can see the horrid looking puff of smoke filling a huge area. That's information enough. You see the cloud, target it, bang. Why would you bother targeting a creature's sword or helm when it's just as easy to just target the creature? Answer: You don't. You just target the creature. Why? There is no point in targeting the helm or sword. Why? Because you get no bonus for targeting the creature and all his gear as a whole, nor do you get a penalty for specifically targeting his sword. Thus, targeting an item held by a creature is pointless, as the creature is considered part of the item, and the item is considered part of the creature. Why? Because the item is "attended". You're right. But like I said, doing so is absolutely pointless. However, you don't need a hard and fast rule in a book to figure this out. It's pretty simple enough. That's a really thin argument. If you have three lemons lined up in front of you, and the sage points to the one in the middle and says "That's a lemon." then walks away, do you just naturally assume the other two are not lemons because the sage didn't say they were? That's what you're trying to do with the sage reply above. This is where I disagree with you. I don't think your argument makes any sense, as the evidence is there in front of you. Granted, I'll respect your right to your own interpretation of the rules and sage reply, but you're still wrong. ;) It has already been clarified. Reread the sage reply about 50 more times. ;) I understand that you're confused, yes. :D [/QUOTE]
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