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<blockquote data-quote="biktin" data-source="post: 7508221" data-attributes="member: 6892566"><p>Wow.. what a response! Thank you for all your great suggestions and intelligent discussion. I'll try to cover as many as I can.</p><p></p><p>Yes, this has happened when the party have had a full rest. The last time they had rested because they were so totally worn down - no spells, very low HP. They had spent time setting up and ensuring perimeters etc. To be honest, I could have disturbed their rest with a couple of mooks and that would have been a TPK. In that instance they were level 8, and the encounter was 1 x Stone Giant Dreamwalker, 2 x Stone Giants. </p><p></p><p>We're making our way through Rise of the Runelords, and they're just finishing up the fourth. Actually, funnily enough the fight for BBEG of that adventure went pretty well, even though they were full health. (Fight was, reskinned Storm Giant Quintessant as BBEG with a few added abilities + 2x CR5 Ogre zombies, BBEG gated at 25% health to a different portion of the fortress with 2x CR10 Guardian Nagas (also reskinned), although I had to tone down the Nagas a touch as it was pretty obvious that was a bit OTT (I only used spells up to 3rd level). Also, they didn't get the drop on that guy since he had alarm wards etc in place. again, they had had a full rest but again that would have been a one-round TPK if he had as much as sniffed at them before they had rested.</p><p></p><p>More often than not I tend to use monsters from Tome of Beasts re-skinned more often than not. They seem much more challenging than MM monsters, which the party seem to steam roller (they seem to have very low HP to me).</p><p></p><p>I'll be writing up (well, converting) their next adventure today so I will take a lot of these points on board for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="biktin, post: 7508221, member: 6892566"] Wow.. what a response! Thank you for all your great suggestions and intelligent discussion. I'll try to cover as many as I can. Yes, this has happened when the party have had a full rest. The last time they had rested because they were so totally worn down - no spells, very low HP. They had spent time setting up and ensuring perimeters etc. To be honest, I could have disturbed their rest with a couple of mooks and that would have been a TPK. In that instance they were level 8, and the encounter was 1 x Stone Giant Dreamwalker, 2 x Stone Giants. We're making our way through Rise of the Runelords, and they're just finishing up the fourth. Actually, funnily enough the fight for BBEG of that adventure went pretty well, even though they were full health. (Fight was, reskinned Storm Giant Quintessant as BBEG with a few added abilities + 2x CR5 Ogre zombies, BBEG gated at 25% health to a different portion of the fortress with 2x CR10 Guardian Nagas (also reskinned), although I had to tone down the Nagas a touch as it was pretty obvious that was a bit OTT (I only used spells up to 3rd level). Also, they didn't get the drop on that guy since he had alarm wards etc in place. again, they had had a full rest but again that would have been a one-round TPK if he had as much as sniffed at them before they had rested. More often than not I tend to use monsters from Tome of Beasts re-skinned more often than not. They seem much more challenging than MM monsters, which the party seem to steam roller (they seem to have very low HP to me). I'll be writing up (well, converting) their next adventure today so I will take a lot of these points on board for that. [/QUOTE]
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