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DMG's definition of "Deadly" is much less deadly than mine: Data Aggregation?
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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6704668" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Okay, I've entered a few combats that stand out in my memory. Let me know if I'm doing it right (especially Party Condition, I'm not sure what that means) and I can enter more.</p><p></p><p>There are no guidelines for "effective level." It's going to be a guesstimate by the DM anyway, since all kinds of things can factor into it from equipment to henchmen. Just ask yourself, "compared to the default, no-magic party of four completely RAW rolled-stats PCs, what equivalent threat level do my PCs pose to the monsters compared to that baseline?" For example, I might guesstimate that my 11th level party is approximately as capable as a typical 15th level party due to smart build synergies; if I send them up against a threat calibrated for 15th level and they destroy it utterly, everything over that calibrated level can be fairly attributed to either a fault in the encounter guidelines or to brilliant play by the PCs, but they can't take credit for the 11th-to-15th gap because that all happened at chargen time or from their magic items.</p><p></p><p>To give you a concrete example, I played with a 5E DM who started everybody off at 8th level and, over the course of several sessions, gave everybody +5 weapons loosely based on Saberhagen's Swords of Power, each with unique powers like Str 29 or virtual magic immunity. I'd probably call that a +5 level adjustment and record those combats as 13th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6704668, member: 6787650"] Okay, I've entered a few combats that stand out in my memory. Let me know if I'm doing it right (especially Party Condition, I'm not sure what that means) and I can enter more. There are no guidelines for "effective level." It's going to be a guesstimate by the DM anyway, since all kinds of things can factor into it from equipment to henchmen. Just ask yourself, "compared to the default, no-magic party of four completely RAW rolled-stats PCs, what equivalent threat level do my PCs pose to the monsters compared to that baseline?" For example, I might guesstimate that my 11th level party is approximately as capable as a typical 15th level party due to smart build synergies; if I send them up against a threat calibrated for 15th level and they destroy it utterly, everything over that calibrated level can be fairly attributed to either a fault in the encounter guidelines or to brilliant play by the PCs, but they can't take credit for the 11th-to-15th gap because that all happened at chargen time or from their magic items. To give you a concrete example, I played with a 5E DM who started everybody off at 8th level and, over the course of several sessions, gave everybody +5 weapons loosely based on Saberhagen's Swords of Power, each with unique powers like Str 29 or virtual magic immunity. I'd probably call that a +5 level adjustment and record those combats as 13th level. [/QUOTE]
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