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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3024460" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>But, that's a player issue. Like I said in my post, assume for a second that the player isn't out to screw over the campaign. The player is willing to take characters which fit in the campaign setting. In other words, I'm willing to assume that most players are fairly reasonable.</p><p></p><p>Tossing up straw men isn't really helping your case very much. If the DM says that he wants to run "Megadungeon of the Living Dead", part of the social contract between the players and DM is that they actually want to play in this game. </p><p></p><p>However, just because the DM doesn't happen to like my character concept, so long as it fits within the parameters of the campaign, he can take a jump in the lake if he thinks that his vision for my character should trump my own. Note, there is the proviso there of the character actually fitting within the campaign setting. That's a given. If I'm deliberately trying to play characters that don't fit within the setting, that's a player issue and needs to be dealt with.</p><p></p><p>But, if the campaign is set in Faerun and there are no particular in game reasons why not, what's the problem with me playing a Drizz't clone? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, there is no claimant attitude at all. I'm planning in my head that IF I get to level X, I will take Class A. If I get to level Y, I will take a level in Class B. There's no owing here at all, implicit or otherwise. It's no different than the fighter player thinking, "Hey, when I hit 9th level, I get all those juicy followers". It's not a case of entitlement beyond what's actually encoded in the rules.</p><p></p><p>Or is there something wrong with my fighter character saving up money so he can construct a keep and get followers?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3024460, member: 22779"] But, that's a player issue. Like I said in my post, assume for a second that the player isn't out to screw over the campaign. The player is willing to take characters which fit in the campaign setting. In other words, I'm willing to assume that most players are fairly reasonable. Tossing up straw men isn't really helping your case very much. If the DM says that he wants to run "Megadungeon of the Living Dead", part of the social contract between the players and DM is that they actually want to play in this game. However, just because the DM doesn't happen to like my character concept, so long as it fits within the parameters of the campaign, he can take a jump in the lake if he thinks that his vision for my character should trump my own. Note, there is the proviso there of the character actually fitting within the campaign setting. That's a given. If I'm deliberately trying to play characters that don't fit within the setting, that's a player issue and needs to be dealt with. But, if the campaign is set in Faerun and there are no particular in game reasons why not, what's the problem with me playing a Drizz't clone? But, there is no claimant attitude at all. I'm planning in my head that IF I get to level X, I will take Class A. If I get to level Y, I will take a level in Class B. There's no owing here at all, implicit or otherwise. It's no different than the fighter player thinking, "Hey, when I hit 9th level, I get all those juicy followers". It's not a case of entitlement beyond what's actually encoded in the rules. Or is there something wrong with my fighter character saving up money so he can construct a keep and get followers? [/QUOTE]
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