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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6793154" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>In addition to all the other counters posted since this, what can creatures observe?</p><p></p><p>We have a guy who <em>claims</em> to be a 'wizard' (perhaps he has sewn 'Wizzard' in sequins on his pointy hat) who is reading some scrawl that you can't read from some book that he found. He then casts <em>phantom steed</em> and <em>says</em> that he 'prepared the spell' (whatever <em>that</em> means) by reading it from a spellbook.</p><p></p><p>This 'proves' he is a wizard? Therefore you <strong>know</strong> that 'wizards' work exactly like they are described in the 5E PHB?</p><p></p><p>What if the 'wizard' is really a bard with Magical Secrets and proficiency in Deception? How would the observer <strong>know</strong> the difference?</p><p></p><p>And this is under an assumption the 5E does <strong>not</strong> make, that every person in the game world who has levels <strong>only</strong> has class levels from chapter 3 of the PHB. The MM is core, and without any non-core source, creatures encounter NPCs all the time, and NPCs are not even expected to have 'classes' as in chapter 3, yet still have abilities resembling those abilities that the classes from chapter 3 have.</p><p></p><p>They cannot <strong>know</strong> that the stranger they see reading that book and claiming to be a wizard actually <strong>is</strong> a wizard as 'defined' by the text in chapter 3.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6793154, member: 6799649"] In addition to all the other counters posted since this, what can creatures observe? We have a guy who [i]claims[/i] to be a 'wizard' (perhaps he has sewn 'Wizzard' in sequins on his pointy hat) who is reading some scrawl that you can't read from some book that he found. He then casts [i]phantom steed[/i] and [i]says[/i] that he 'prepared the spell' (whatever [i]that[/i] means) by reading it from a spellbook. This 'proves' he is a wizard? Therefore you [b]know[/b] that 'wizards' work exactly like they are described in the 5E PHB? What if the 'wizard' is really a bard with Magical Secrets and proficiency in Deception? How would the observer [b]know[/b] the difference? And this is under an assumption the 5E does [b]not[/b] make, that every person in the game world who has levels [b]only[/b] has class levels from chapter 3 of the PHB. The MM is core, and without any non-core source, creatures encounter NPCs all the time, and NPCs are not even expected to have 'classes' as in chapter 3, yet still have abilities resembling those abilities that the classes from chapter 3 have. They cannot [b]know[/b] that the stranger they see reading that book and claiming to be a wizard actually [b]is[/b] a wizard as 'defined' by the text in chapter 3. [/QUOTE]
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