Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Do Demon Lords/Dukes of Hell grant spells to worshippers as gods do?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5055575" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>I can't recall which one, but I distinctly remember a 2E <em>Planescape</em> supplement that amended this.</p><p></p><p>It was discussing worship of Abyssal Lords, and said something to the effect of 1st- and 2nd-level level spells were gained through faith alone. 3rd-level spells had to be imparted by the Lord into a vassal who had to personally deliver them to the worshipper in order for said worshipper to receive them. 4th-level spells could only be received by a worshipper from the Abyssal Lord directly (e.g. had to be in its presence). I took this to apply to pretty much all planar powers (e.g. archomentals, slaad lords, etc).</p><p></p><p>The other 2E divine handbooks were pretty clear on the higher-level spells. Demigods could grant spells of up to 5th level. Lesser gods could grant spells of up to 6th level. And intermediate and greater gods could grant spells of any level (including, according to a Sage Advice column, quest spells - though I read somewhere that on Greyhawk only greater gods could grant quest spells).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't recall anything specific in 3E FR about druids being able to worship "nature" as opposed to a deity. That said, the "Fallen Gods and Nondivine Entities" sidebar on page 46 of <em>Power of Faerun</em> nicely summarizes what feats are in what books that let you worship and gain spells from things that aren't (living) gods - it's on the same page as the Heretic of the Faith feat, which lets you twist a god's teachings and still be supported with spells and abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 5055575, member: 8461"] I can't recall which one, but I distinctly remember a 2E [i]Planescape[/i] supplement that amended this. It was discussing worship of Abyssal Lords, and said something to the effect of 1st- and 2nd-level level spells were gained through faith alone. 3rd-level spells had to be imparted by the Lord into a vassal who had to personally deliver them to the worshipper in order for said worshipper to receive them. 4th-level spells could only be received by a worshipper from the Abyssal Lord directly (e.g. had to be in its presence). I took this to apply to pretty much all planar powers (e.g. archomentals, slaad lords, etc). The other 2E divine handbooks were pretty clear on the higher-level spells. Demigods could grant spells of up to 5th level. Lesser gods could grant spells of up to 6th level. And intermediate and greater gods could grant spells of any level (including, according to a Sage Advice column, quest spells - though I read somewhere that on Greyhawk only greater gods could grant quest spells). I can't recall anything specific in 3E FR about druids being able to worship "nature" as opposed to a deity. That said, the "Fallen Gods and Nondivine Entities" sidebar on page 46 of [i]Power of Faerun[/i] nicely summarizes what feats are in what books that let you worship and gain spells from things that aren't (living) gods - it's on the same page as the Heretic of the Faith feat, which lets you twist a god's teachings and still be supported with spells and abilities. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Do Demon Lords/Dukes of Hell grant spells to worshippers as gods do?
Top