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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7504294" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I wouldn't consider an adventure path definitive. The Basic Rules say: "While climbing or swimming, each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain), unless a creature has a climbing or swimming speed. At the DM’s option, climbing a slippery vertical surface or one with few handholds requires a successful Strength (Athletics) check."</p><p></p><p>I believe you are referring to the "natural chimney" in Area 3 of the Cragmaw Hideout. This would be the case of being the DM's option (the DM here being the writer of that module communicating to others his or her intent), but it says nothing in the module about why a check is necessary here, omitting any mention of being slippery, having few handholds, or the like. I guess we're just left wondering why that is. It's also possible this was written before the rules for climbing were finalized. </p><p></p><p>What I'm curious about is how many people are treating it like, say, D&D 3.Xe or 4e where the DM is hearing "I want to climb this..." and going straight to asking for a Strength (Athletics) check instead of considering whether one is necessary and using the rules I quoted above. What I'm reading in a lot of the responses above seems to be "Climb = Athletics check" when I think it's really "Climb = 1/2 Speed and maybe sometimes an Athletics check if there's a complication."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7504294, member: 97077"] I wouldn't consider an adventure path definitive. The Basic Rules say: "While climbing or swimming, each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain), unless a creature has a climbing or swimming speed. At the DM’s option, climbing a slippery vertical surface or one with few handholds requires a successful Strength (Athletics) check." I believe you are referring to the "natural chimney" in Area 3 of the Cragmaw Hideout. This would be the case of being the DM's option (the DM here being the writer of that module communicating to others his or her intent), but it says nothing in the module about why a check is necessary here, omitting any mention of being slippery, having few handholds, or the like. I guess we're just left wondering why that is. It's also possible this was written before the rules for climbing were finalized. What I'm curious about is how many people are treating it like, say, D&D 3.Xe or 4e where the DM is hearing "I want to climb this..." and going straight to asking for a Strength (Athletics) check instead of considering whether one is necessary and using the rules I quoted above. What I'm reading in a lot of the responses above seems to be "Climb = Athletics check" when I think it's really "Climb = 1/2 Speed and maybe sometimes an Athletics check if there's a complication." [/QUOTE]
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