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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9330252" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>The player just made up phrase in quotes was a link for a reason, the point of contention is "sometimes", as a result the GM is <em>already</em> working with the player because there might be other situations where it does make sense. It <em>literally</em> links to a post where someone is talking about a player simply making up a ship that travels to a remote &far off area nowhere near where their sailor background had previously established traveling through. Plus that back and forth went on for quite some time in both directions back & I think that to some degree it's still continuing. Why are you acting like I presented some far out situation nobody is talking about or considering?</p><p></p><p>That should clear up quite a bit of the confusion you expressed below, but I'll continue.</p><p></p><p>It has literally been playing out for dozens of pages and you are attempting to find a middle ground between "<em>sometimes</em> it won't make any sense or can't be reasonable given circumstances the player might not be aware of" and "you can't if the player literally just made up some reason that they could get it". I think that you are attributing animosity at the gm where the root cause is extreme apathy on the player side of the GM screen. The hypothetical example of choice shifted from more common offenders like noble to the FR criminal in Ravenloft because the setting itself adds so many clear & unquestionable reasons for why this hypothetical is definitely one of those times. If "JIT" through you for a loop it's used in areas like staffing and some types of coding to describe where something is done as close to just as its needed &stands for just in time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not that I doubt that it occurred, I'm going to feed this through Occam's &<a href="https://thinkinsights.net/strategy/hitchens-razor/#hitchenss-razor" target="_blank"> Hitchen's Razors</a> to shred & dismiss the anecdote because we don't need it when this thread alone provides examples of the very sort of mindset I described & we are on page 250 with those examples going back dozens of pages if not dozens of dozens of pages. posts 496 & 497 were made literally demonstrating that while I was typing this & noticed because I clicked the show new posts thing before hitting submit.</p><p></p><p>[spoiler="huh?"]</p><p><img src="https://media4.giphy.com/media/v2OWXglWr9PAk/200.gif" alt="Confused GIF" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>All I'm getting from this bit of your post that you yourself drew attention to with italics is some kind of moralizing phrased into a club so I'll assume there was a misunderstanding & clarify why it's not needed.</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>No matter your stance on if the 2014 background features are a good or bad thing, I think that we can all agree that by & large we can all agree that the discussion has been largely about what we view as the problematic conflicts that arise during play as a result of those <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-plan-to-adopt-d-d5-5one2024redux.702682/post-9317066" target="_blank">incomplete</a> features or poor wording no matter what side of the gm screen we think is where the trouble lies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9330252, member: 93670"] The player just made up phrase in quotes was a link for a reason, the point of contention is "sometimes", as a result the GM is [I]already[/I] working with the player because there might be other situations where it does make sense. It [I]literally[/I] links to a post where someone is talking about a player simply making up a ship that travels to a remote &far off area nowhere near where their sailor background had previously established traveling through. Plus that back and forth went on for quite some time in both directions back & I think that to some degree it's still continuing. Why are you acting like I presented some far out situation nobody is talking about or considering? That should clear up quite a bit of the confusion you expressed below, but I'll continue. It has literally been playing out for dozens of pages and you are attempting to find a middle ground between "[I]sometimes[/I] it won't make any sense or can't be reasonable given circumstances the player might not be aware of" and "you can't if the player literally just made up some reason that they could get it". I think that you are attributing animosity at the gm where the root cause is extreme apathy on the player side of the GM screen. The hypothetical example of choice shifted from more common offenders like noble to the FR criminal in Ravenloft because the setting itself adds so many clear & unquestionable reasons for why this hypothetical is definitely one of those times. If "JIT" through you for a loop it's used in areas like staffing and some types of coding to describe where something is done as close to just as its needed &stands for just in time. Not that I doubt that it occurred, I'm going to feed this through Occam's &[URL='https://thinkinsights.net/strategy/hitchens-razor/#hitchenss-razor'] Hitchen's Razors[/URL] to shred & dismiss the anecdote because we don't need it when this thread alone provides examples of the very sort of mindset I described & we are on page 250 with those examples going back dozens of pages if not dozens of dozens of pages. posts 496 & 497 were made literally demonstrating that while I was typing this & noticed because I clicked the show new posts thing before hitting submit. [spoiler="huh?"] [IMG alt="Confused GIF"]https://media4.giphy.com/media/v2OWXglWr9PAk/200.gif[/IMG] All I'm getting from this bit of your post that you yourself drew attention to with italics is some kind of moralizing phrased into a club so I'll assume there was a misunderstanding & clarify why it's not needed. [/spoiler] No matter your stance on if the 2014 background features are a good or bad thing, I think that we can all agree that by & large we can all agree that the discussion has been largely about what we view as the problematic conflicts that arise during play as a result of those [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/do-you-plan-to-adopt-d-d5-5one2024redux.702682/post-9317066']incomplete[/URL] features or poor wording no matter what side of the gm screen we think is where the trouble lies. [/QUOTE]
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