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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 9331595" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Since most of the backgrounds <em>do not </em>actually require you to be recognized as an individual--only as a person who belongs to a specific social group--you are, once again, reading the backgrounds <em>wrong.</em></p><p></p><p>To compare, take a look at the Athlete from Mythic Odysseys of Theros:</p><p></p><p></p><p>See that? That gives a range and a chance that someone actually recognizes you as a specific person. </p><p></p><p>Other backgrounds, such as the folk hero, do <em>not </em>have that limitation:</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no range limit, there's no percentage chance, nothing. Why? Because people don't have to recognize you as a specific person. They just have to recognize you as a character archetype.</p><p></p><p>And indeed, the entire purpose of the background was that this is something you did before you were an adventurer, you are assumed to have given up that life in order to become an adventurer. A folk hero stays in their village and either lives off their fame or continues to do heroic things for their village. You don't do that--you have left the village and that lifestyle behind.</p><p></p><p>Again: I don't care what you do at your table. But you are declaring the backgrounds to be <em>objectively</em> bad, and you are doing so based on incorrect information.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So hey! Why not say what your "more likely usage" would be? In all this time, I don't think you've ever explained how you actually have replaced these features.</p><p></p><p>But the point I was making is, you specifically said "mother may I" with a DM was bad. But if I were your player, I'd have no idea what you would allow and disallow. How am I supposed to know what you would decide is illogical? Do you have a list of things you disallow and a promise that you're not going to add to willy-nilly? Or would I have to always worry you're going to remove or nerf an ability?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 9331595, member: 6915329"] Since most of the backgrounds [I]do not [/I]actually require you to be recognized as an individual--only as a person who belongs to a specific social group--you are, once again, reading the backgrounds [I]wrong.[/I] To compare, take a look at the Athlete from Mythic Odysseys of Theros: See that? That gives a range and a chance that someone actually recognizes you as a specific person. Other backgrounds, such as the folk hero, do [I]not [/I]have that limitation: There's no range limit, there's no percentage chance, nothing. Why? Because people don't have to recognize you as a specific person. They just have to recognize you as a character archetype. And indeed, the entire purpose of the background was that this is something you did before you were an adventurer, you are assumed to have given up that life in order to become an adventurer. A folk hero stays in their village and either lives off their fame or continues to do heroic things for their village. You don't do that--you have left the village and that lifestyle behind. Again: I don't care what you do at your table. But you are declaring the backgrounds to be [I]objectively[/I] bad, and you are doing so based on incorrect information. So hey! Why not say what your "more likely usage" would be? In all this time, I don't think you've ever explained how you actually have replaced these features. But the point I was making is, you specifically said "mother may I" with a DM was bad. But if I were your player, I'd have no idea what you would allow and disallow. How am I supposed to know what you would decide is illogical? Do you have a list of things you disallow and a promise that you're not going to add to willy-nilly? Or would I have to always worry you're going to remove or nerf an ability? [/QUOTE]
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