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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7152307" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>I do think you rightly have a valid concern about adding more new systems to the game. Where I would push back, however, is that, in general though not necessarily with you, this point is not evenly applied, but often restricted to psionics. Although we may say that all casters cast spells, there are different systems and substems at play. The warlock casts spells, for example, but pact magic operates differently than a wizard or sorcerer's spellslot spells per day system. Likewise, the monk does not operate off of spells, but has their abilities, including spells gained from subclasses, fueled by their ki points. We already have multiple concurrent magic systems in the game. (The artificer will also be adding a new system to the game via their infusions.) </p><p></p><p>I believe a lot of these concerns have been addressed in the 3.5+ editions. (And it sounds that 3.5 and Dreamscarred Press's take on psionincs would serve your purposes best as they more concretely address these points that you raise.) </p><p></p><p>Here is another set of presumptions that I find contentious, namely that (a) psionics are incongruent with the pre-existing magical systems, and (b) that the magical system is presmed as "coherently explained," which is a particular sentiment that may be far from universal or true. For me, D&D does not present a coherent magic sytem. The distinction between divine and arcane magic, as is often the case, is one of those D&Disms that I personally find incoherent. I can at least sympathize with your distaste for psionics from a similar perspective of my distate for the arcane/divine magic divide. The simulationist in me would prefer a more universal magic system. For example, Arcana Evolved is one such universal system that still clearly draws on D&D in its approach and familiarity (and it clearly influenced the 5e magic system).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7152307, member: 5142"] I do think you rightly have a valid concern about adding more new systems to the game. Where I would push back, however, is that, in general though not necessarily with you, this point is not evenly applied, but often restricted to psionics. Although we may say that all casters cast spells, there are different systems and substems at play. The warlock casts spells, for example, but pact magic operates differently than a wizard or sorcerer's spellslot spells per day system. Likewise, the monk does not operate off of spells, but has their abilities, including spells gained from subclasses, fueled by their ki points. We already have multiple concurrent magic systems in the game. (The artificer will also be adding a new system to the game via their infusions.) I believe a lot of these concerns have been addressed in the 3.5+ editions. (And it sounds that 3.5 and Dreamscarred Press's take on psionincs would serve your purposes best as they more concretely address these points that you raise.) Here is another set of presumptions that I find contentious, namely that (a) psionics are incongruent with the pre-existing magical systems, and (b) that the magical system is presmed as "coherently explained," which is a particular sentiment that may be far from universal or true. For me, D&D does not present a coherent magic sytem. The distinction between divine and arcane magic, as is often the case, is one of those D&Disms that I personally find incoherent. I can at least sympathize with your distaste for psionics from a similar perspective of my distate for the arcane/divine magic divide. The simulationist in me would prefer a more universal magic system. For example, Arcana Evolved is one such universal system that still clearly draws on D&D in its approach and familiarity (and it clearly influenced the 5e magic system). [/QUOTE]
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