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Does damage from a touch attack ignore Damage Reduction
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<blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 3299844" data-attributes="member: 3987"><p>Do you need me to list the number of creatures (at least from the SRD) that have touch attacks that do damage? How many do you need to show that they usually for creatures they do?</p><p></p><p>Ghost, Wraith, Spectre, Unbodied, Caller in Darkness, Shadow of the Void, Shape of Fire, </p><p></p><p>compared with the Allip, Shadow which only do an energy drain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at the monster manual none of the attacks mention damage, it is damage by default effect for attacks, unless it is listed as something else.</p><p></p><p><strong>Wraith</strong></p><p>Attack: Incorporeal touch +5 melee (1d4 plus 1d6 Constitution drain)</p><p></p><p>Is it 1d4 bannanas?</p><p></p><p><strong>Ankheg</strong></p><p>Attack: Bite +7 melee (2d6+7 plus 1d4 acid)</p><p></p><p>Is it 2d6+7 fruit cakes?</p><p></p><p>Let look at the sentence without the paragraph with the phrase <em>touch attacks</em> in it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reading that you'll see that Damage reduction does not negate</p><p></p><p>a) energy damage.</p><p>b) energy drain.</p><p>c) Poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion or contact.</p><p></p><p>If they were the only things that Damage reduction did not negate there would be no need to mention touch attacks at all.</p><p></p><p>A sword that does normal attack and fire damage has it's normal damage negated by DR, but because it's listed in the bold sentence above it's energy damage is not negated. The normal attack isn't mentioned so DR can negate it.</p><p></p><p>If you wanted touch attacks to be negated by DR that is how the sentence need to be written.</p><p></p><p>But that isn't how it's written, they specifically list "touch attacks" as one of the things DR doesn't negate so a touch attack that does 2d6 + 1d8 fire would not be negated and neither would it's energy damage, as they are both listed in the same sentence no less.</p><p></p><p>How can you ignore one case of negating DR and not the other? They are even written right next to each other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagpuss, post: 3299844, member: 3987"] Do you need me to list the number of creatures (at least from the SRD) that have touch attacks that do damage? How many do you need to show that they usually for creatures they do? Ghost, Wraith, Spectre, Unbodied, Caller in Darkness, Shadow of the Void, Shape of Fire, compared with the Allip, Shadow which only do an energy drain. Look at the monster manual none of the attacks mention damage, it is damage by default effect for attacks, unless it is listed as something else. [B]Wraith[/B] Attack: Incorporeal touch +5 melee (1d4 plus 1d6 Constitution drain) Is it 1d4 bannanas? [B]Ankheg[/B] Attack: Bite +7 melee (2d6+7 plus 1d4 acid) Is it 2d6+7 fruit cakes? Let look at the sentence without the paragraph with the phrase [I]touch attacks[/I] in it. Reading that you'll see that Damage reduction does not negate a) energy damage. b) energy drain. c) Poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion or contact. If they were the only things that Damage reduction did not negate there would be no need to mention touch attacks at all. A sword that does normal attack and fire damage has it's normal damage negated by DR, but because it's listed in the bold sentence above it's energy damage is not negated. The normal attack isn't mentioned so DR can negate it. If you wanted touch attacks to be negated by DR that is how the sentence need to be written. But that isn't how it's written, they specifically list "touch attacks" as one of the things DR doesn't negate so a touch attack that does 2d6 + 1d8 fire would not be negated and neither would it's energy damage, as they are both listed in the same sentence no less. How can you ignore one case of negating DR and not the other? They are even written right next to each other. [/QUOTE]
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