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Does Magic of Incarnum and 3e's Tome of Magic and Tome of Battle have a place in 5e?
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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7314690" data-attributes="member: 6683613"><p>I'm seeing (at least) two conversations in this thread being conflated into one. Let's clarify what we're talking about.</p><p></p><p>Are we talking about <em>the flavor</em> of the 3e classes finding their way into 5e? Is the discussion about whether (to use incarnum as an example) dudes who shape soulpower into glowing blue weapons and armor have a place in this edition?</p><p></p><p>Or are we talking about <em>the mechanics</em> of the 3e classes finding their way into 5e? Is the discussion about whether dudes whose power comes from selecting and modifying an array of buff effects without a daily resource limit have a place in this edition?</p><p></p><p>Because if we're having the first conversation, then we can talk about whether incarnum is too weird or not and whether a sorcerer or cleric or druid subclass might fit the bill. But if we're having the second one, then both of those topics are beside the point.</p><p></p><p>And personally, I think the second conversation is <em>much</em> more interesting and fruitful. Flavor is a matter of taste, and writing a subclass to match a particular flavor is, frankly, not very difficult. But effectively adapting a completely different magic system to 5e's rules and design philosophy? There's a challenge worthy of some thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 7314690, member: 6683613"] I'm seeing (at least) two conversations in this thread being conflated into one. Let's clarify what we're talking about. Are we talking about [I]the flavor[/I] of the 3e classes finding their way into 5e? Is the discussion about whether (to use incarnum as an example) dudes who shape soulpower into glowing blue weapons and armor have a place in this edition? Or are we talking about [I]the mechanics[/I] of the 3e classes finding their way into 5e? Is the discussion about whether dudes whose power comes from selecting and modifying an array of buff effects without a daily resource limit have a place in this edition? Because if we're having the first conversation, then we can talk about whether incarnum is too weird or not and whether a sorcerer or cleric or druid subclass might fit the bill. But if we're having the second one, then both of those topics are beside the point. And personally, I think the second conversation is [I]much[/I] more interesting and fruitful. Flavor is a matter of taste, and writing a subclass to match a particular flavor is, frankly, not very difficult. But effectively adapting a completely different magic system to 5e's rules and design philosophy? There's a challenge worthy of some thought. [/QUOTE]
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