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<blockquote data-quote="Chun-tzu" data-source="post: 7225" data-attributes="member: 1441"><p>I agree with DM-Matt, in that generally speaking, the Monk should be better than most Fighters in unarmed combat. After all, martial arts is WHY people play monks (like combat is why you play a fighter, stealth is why you play a rogue, flashy spells is why you play a wizard). Take martial arts away from a monk and you're left with nothing to hold the character together.</p><p></p><p>There are a couple things that still give monks the edge, however. Although fighters get more feats than monks, check out the Shintao monk prestige class, that gets FIVE bonus feats over 10 levels. These monks, at least, do not fall far behind martial artist fighters in number of feats, and they have some other nifty abilities as well (like Touch the Void Dragon at 1st level!).</p><p></p><p>And while fighters can make up for the damage difference using magic, it's always going to be the case that magic gives you an edge over no magic. The question is, what magic items did the monk get while the fighter got those enchanted gauntlets? Sword and Fist and Magic of Faerun include some good magic items specifically for monks, like the Bracers of Striking, which can be enhanced any way that other weapons can. So, while a fighter can get enchanted gloves, the monk can get enchanted bracers that can match those gloves (admittedly, at a slightly higher cost, about 1000 gp more than gauntlets).</p><p></p><p>So, there are ways for monks to make up for those advantages a pure fighter or a fighter/monk would have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chun-tzu, post: 7225, member: 1441"] I agree with DM-Matt, in that generally speaking, the Monk should be better than most Fighters in unarmed combat. After all, martial arts is WHY people play monks (like combat is why you play a fighter, stealth is why you play a rogue, flashy spells is why you play a wizard). Take martial arts away from a monk and you're left with nothing to hold the character together. There are a couple things that still give monks the edge, however. Although fighters get more feats than monks, check out the Shintao monk prestige class, that gets FIVE bonus feats over 10 levels. These monks, at least, do not fall far behind martial artist fighters in number of feats, and they have some other nifty abilities as well (like Touch the Void Dragon at 1st level!). And while fighters can make up for the damage difference using magic, it's always going to be the case that magic gives you an edge over no magic. The question is, what magic items did the monk get while the fighter got those enchanted gauntlets? Sword and Fist and Magic of Faerun include some good magic items specifically for monks, like the Bracers of Striking, which can be enhanced any way that other weapons can. So, while a fighter can get enchanted gloves, the monk can get enchanted bracers that can match those gloves (admittedly, at a slightly higher cost, about 1000 gp more than gauntlets). So, there are ways for monks to make up for those advantages a pure fighter or a fighter/monk would have. [/QUOTE]
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