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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6397098" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>Hussar I would like to have your players.</p><p></p><p>Very few of mine actually contribute much to the world building, one most of the time has issues remembering what happened last session. I am lucky with a couple who are very motivated and communicate with me between sessions they write game journals. They actual read the handouts. I have one who has been playing for years and he really does not know the rules that well yet he is the one who will argue with me the most usually because he does not like something that happened with his PC.</p><p></p><p>There are players who don't ever want their PCs to fail or anything bad to happen to them and so often their interpretation of the rules is one that gives them a huge benefit to their PC.</p><p></p><p>As DM I know what things are going on behind the scenes that they don't know which can have an impact on the rules. For example in a game I was running which had a lot of intrigue the clerics of two of the most powerful churches almost went to war. The bard a spellscale managed to use his diplomacy to stave it off. He was not really good at talking so I allowed him to tell me what the gist of what he was going to say then roll. He rolled a natural 20 which in our game adds a +10 to the roll so with his high skill he got close to a 40. So yeah he made friends and changed many people opinion of spellscales all except for the primate of ST Cuthbert's church. Who acted rude and dismissive to him.</p><p></p><p>The player got really angry over this and kept arguing with me how the rules for diplomacy work. I kept saying to him yes I know but not this time with this guy. I asked him to roll a sense motive which he flubbed on the primate. I finally had to call a time out and take a break because of the argument. Several of the other players were confused too and backing his argument about how diplomacy works. Here is the thing the primate was not who he seemed to be he was in league with the bad guys and the bard had just foiled a major plan they had been working on. I don't care what your diplomacy roll is you are not going to make him friendly with you.</p><p></p><p>After I asked for the sense motive roll and the fact I kept saying things like it seems strange he would treat you this way the other players finally grasped oh maybe something weird is going on here. They tried to get him to see it but he was to angry to listen. </p><p></p><p>So I don't think that just because the bulk of players agree on something that they are necessarily right. Again I think it comes down to trusting your DM. That there is a reason for what is happening. This player who is a good friend in real life who I don't play with anymore except when he DMs has major trust issued when it comes to DMs he was burned by bad ones. He is a good DM but dome of us including his wife when she was alive wanted to DM for him because of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 6397098, member: 9037"] Hussar I would like to have your players. Very few of mine actually contribute much to the world building, one most of the time has issues remembering what happened last session. I am lucky with a couple who are very motivated and communicate with me between sessions they write game journals. They actual read the handouts. I have one who has been playing for years and he really does not know the rules that well yet he is the one who will argue with me the most usually because he does not like something that happened with his PC. There are players who don't ever want their PCs to fail or anything bad to happen to them and so often their interpretation of the rules is one that gives them a huge benefit to their PC. As DM I know what things are going on behind the scenes that they don't know which can have an impact on the rules. For example in a game I was running which had a lot of intrigue the clerics of two of the most powerful churches almost went to war. The bard a spellscale managed to use his diplomacy to stave it off. He was not really good at talking so I allowed him to tell me what the gist of what he was going to say then roll. He rolled a natural 20 which in our game adds a +10 to the roll so with his high skill he got close to a 40. So yeah he made friends and changed many people opinion of spellscales all except for the primate of ST Cuthbert's church. Who acted rude and dismissive to him. The player got really angry over this and kept arguing with me how the rules for diplomacy work. I kept saying to him yes I know but not this time with this guy. I asked him to roll a sense motive which he flubbed on the primate. I finally had to call a time out and take a break because of the argument. Several of the other players were confused too and backing his argument about how diplomacy works. Here is the thing the primate was not who he seemed to be he was in league with the bad guys and the bard had just foiled a major plan they had been working on. I don't care what your diplomacy roll is you are not going to make him friendly with you. After I asked for the sense motive roll and the fact I kept saying things like it seems strange he would treat you this way the other players finally grasped oh maybe something weird is going on here. They tried to get him to see it but he was to angry to listen. So I don't think that just because the bulk of players agree on something that they are necessarily right. Again I think it comes down to trusting your DM. That there is a reason for what is happening. This player who is a good friend in real life who I don't play with anymore except when he DMs has major trust issued when it comes to DMs he was burned by bad ones. He is a good DM but dome of us including his wife when she was alive wanted to DM for him because of it. [/QUOTE]
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