Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Does The D&D Movie Poster Feature Pathfinder Artwork?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 8700311" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>The <strong>Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves</strong> movie poster was previewed today. It was created by an artist called <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bosslogic/?hl=en" target="_blank">Bosslogic</a>, and features an ampersand containing various pieces of D&D monster art. The poster was on display at San Diego Comic Con as part of the official D&D movie promotional event.</p><p></p><p>However, one part of the poster appears to be <em>Pathfinder's</em> depiction of an intellect devourer. Is this the same art piece?</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]254606[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]254612[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 10px">Paizo's Pathfinder 2 Bestiary (thanks to [USER=7036001]@Ir'revrykal[/USER] for the pic)</span></p><p></p><p>It certainly looks like the same piece of art.</p><p></p><p>Now, the intellect devourer is a D&D monster which appeared way back in 1976, and has appeared in every edition of D&D since. Why does <em>Pathfinder </em>have artwork of one? Well, the creature was first released as<strong> Open Gaming Content</strong> 20 years ago under the <strong>Open Gaming License</strong>. Since then, other companies have used the monster, or created their own versions of it -- including Paizo in the <strong>Pathfinder RPG</strong>. The name and the stat blocks (including the <em>Pathfinder </em>version) are free to use.</p><p></p><p>The art? Not so much. Art commissioned by Paizo to illustrate its <em>Bestiaries</em> is not Open Gaming Content. While art <em>can</em> be OGC (nowhere in the OGL is the actual subject matter defined -- you can make any of your work OGC and available for use by others, from sheet music to 3D spaceship models), companies rarely designate it as so, and Paizo's intellect devourer art is no exception.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/check-out-the-d-d-movies-cast-in-costume.690054/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>However, the 'open gaming license' tangent is a red herring. It's unlikely that Paramount was thinking in terms of open source TTRPG game rules when it made the poster, and this poster is not released using the OGL, so its terms are not relevant to it. More likely, somebody just assumed that that piece of art was created by WotC, not Paizo. The 'OGL' part of this conversation simply explains why Paizo has a version of the creature too, and why Paizo therefore commissioned art for their version.</p><p></p><p>For comparison, here is the D&D 5E version of the intellect devourer—presumably the piece of art that <em>should</em> have been used.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]254626[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>It's not the first time mistakes like this have happened. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/old-spice-d-d-class-thoughts.615863/" target="_blank">Back in 2018</a> Old Spice <a href="https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-and-dragons-old-spice/" target="_blank">released a D&D class</a> called <em>The Gentleman</em>... except that it was actually a <em>Pathfinder</em> class!</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/old-spice-d-d-class-thoughts.615863/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>When it comes down to it, this is almost certainly just a simple mistake--a contracted artist, not as versed in TTRPGs as many people reading this, simply didn't realise that other companies could or had made their own versions of the creature, and used the one which fitted the space. Nothing to get upset about, and the companies will likely have a quick phone call and the matter will be settled.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 8700311, member: 1"] The [B]Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves[/B] movie poster was previewed today. It was created by an artist called [URL='https://www.instagram.com/bosslogic/?hl=en']Bosslogic[/URL], and features an ampersand containing various pieces of D&D monster art. The poster was on display at San Diego Comic Con as part of the official D&D movie promotional event. However, one part of the poster appears to be [I]Pathfinder's[/I] depiction of an intellect devourer. Is this the same art piece? [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" alt="poster.jpeg"]254606[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="600px" alt="paizo_devourer.png"]254612[/ATTACH] [SIZE=2]Paizo's Pathfinder 2 Bestiary (thanks to [USER=7036001]@Ir'revrykal[/USER] for the pic)[/SIZE][/CENTER] It certainly looks like the same piece of art. Now, the intellect devourer is a D&D monster which appeared way back in 1976, and has appeared in every edition of D&D since. Why does [I]Pathfinder [/I]have artwork of one? Well, the creature was first released as[B] Open Gaming Content[/B] 20 years ago under the [B]Open Gaming License[/B]. Since then, other companies have used the monster, or created their own versions of it -- including Paizo in the [B]Pathfinder RPG[/B]. The name and the stat blocks (including the [I]Pathfinder [/I]version) are free to use. The art? Not so much. Art commissioned by Paizo to illustrate its [I]Bestiaries[/I] is not Open Gaming Content. While art [I]can[/I] be OGC (nowhere in the OGL is the actual subject matter defined -- you can make any of your work OGC and available for use by others, from sheet music to 3D spaceship models), companies rarely designate it as so, and Paizo's intellect devourer art is no exception. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/check-out-the-d-d-movies-cast-in-costume.690054/[/URL] However, the 'open gaming license' tangent is a red herring. It's unlikely that Paramount was thinking in terms of open source TTRPG game rules when it made the poster, and this poster is not released using the OGL, so its terms are not relevant to it. More likely, somebody just assumed that that piece of art was created by WotC, not Paizo. The 'OGL' part of this conversation simply explains why Paizo has a version of the creature too, and why Paizo therefore commissioned art for their version. For comparison, here is the D&D 5E version of the intellect devourer—presumably the piece of art that [I]should[/I] have been used. [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" width="600px" alt="C21BED96-2003-456D-9664-40E94A3F20D1.jpeg"]254626[/ATTACH][/CENTER] It's not the first time mistakes like this have happened. [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/old-spice-d-d-class-thoughts.615863/']Back in 2018[/URL] Old Spice [URL='https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-and-dragons-old-spice/']released a D&D class[/URL] called [I]The Gentleman[/I]... except that it was actually a [I]Pathfinder[/I] class! [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/old-spice-d-d-class-thoughts.615863/[/URL] When it comes down to it, this is almost certainly just a simple mistake--a contracted artist, not as versed in TTRPGs as many people reading this, simply didn't realise that other companies could or had made their own versions of the creature, and used the one which fitted the space. Nothing to get upset about, and the companies will likely have a quick phone call and the matter will be settled. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Does The D&D Movie Poster Feature Pathfinder Artwork?
Top